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by SpicyLemonZest 166 days ago
But why is your own framing exempt from the analysis? The idea that you should see a murder and "look at it all with a cold eye", to try and dispassionately understand whether it might have been justified, is a non-obvious idea that's quite advantageous to power centers that expect to be shooting people frequently.
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iugtmkbdfil834 166 days ago
Am I suggesting that you do not do it? Hardly. That said, I am simply not buying my newly assigned martyr.
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SpicyLemonZest 166 days ago
Again, this concept of "newly assigned martyr" you have is not something that fell from heaven fully formed. It was shaped and given to you by what you call "power centers" - ones which are currently running the United States government! - because they think this framing is beneficial to them. I'm going to stop the conversation here before I start coming up with unwise insults, because it's just infuriating that you can't turn this critical eye on yourself and the informational warfare you're subject to.
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iugtmkbdfil834 166 days ago
Who says I can't? In any event, before you go, why, exactly, is it infuriating?
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SpicyLemonZest 166 days ago
What's infuriating is that you are acting as an agent of the government, defending their murder of a random citizen, but perceive yourself and frame yourself as a dispassionate observer who's interested in the media dynamics of how different descriptors get attached to people. I don't know if you started off like this, or if you're so deep in DHS propaganda that you can't find your way out, and right now I don't care to find out.
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iugtmkbdfil834 166 days ago
The difference between us that I know exactly what ( and even why ) I advocate for: keeping the system stable.

<< random citizen

She was a not some random citizen; I would have been addressing it differently if that was the case. Now, if you have a stomach for it, we can go over what kind of citizen she was.

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goatlover 166 days ago
Sounds like, "What kind of American are you?" from the Jesse Plemmons character in the Alex Garland Civil War movie.

Shouldn't the fact that ICE shot a woman trying to leave the scene be enough?

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steele 166 days ago
What kind of citizen was she, comrade?
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