[stouset]

> anyone who has done extensive 'athletic' physical activity knows that if you don't up your calorie intake that you will lose weight.

Anyone who has done extensive athletic physical activity knows that you will up your calorie intake unless you take explicit and intentional effort not to.

[kelnos]

This doesn't even require you to be an athlete, or do extensive physical activity. Add even a half-hour jog three days a week to your otherwise-mostly-sedentary routine and you'll tend to engage in "compensatory eating" even if you don't realize it.

This is why exercise alone often doesn't cause you to lose weight, or at least not as much as you'd expect given the extra calories you're burning: you're probably eating more (or the same amount, but foods with higher calorie density) than you were before, even if you didn't consciously choose to do so.

[42772827]

>that you will up your calorie intake unless you take explicit and intentional effort not to.

Correct, and the "eat less, move more" crowd will tell you, "ignore your hunger. Control yourself. You're a failure because you can't ignore one of the most basic and fundamental biological signals."

[paulddraper]

Absolutely.

This is one reason bodybuilders (the closest thing to professional dieters) will only do low intensity cardio -- walking etc -- when cutting weight.

High intensity cardio burns calories but increases appetite disproportionately. Albeit otherwise excellent for overall health.

[red-iron-pine]

literally get on a tredmill, angle it, and walk for an hour or two

[Mawr]

I don't wanna sound too daring, but going outside is also an option.

[throw0101d]

> I don't wanna sound too daring, but going outside is also an option.

Sure, but a treadmill is more comfortable when it's >30C outside.

[ohyes]

People downplay how important consistency is when trying to make changes to their lifestyle. Walking is good but whatever the exercise, a sustainable plan is best.

Same reason behind having a list when you go to the grocery store and sticking to it rather then buying whatever looks good then and there.

[42772827]

This is why walkable cities are important!

[mathgeek]

Can you clarify what your goal and outcomes are for that?

[Der_Einzige]

I hate /fit/ and the bodybuilding forums so much. Stupid memes like this, SS, GOMAD, and related exist and continue to be parroted because of them. No, using a segway to move in between weight machines will not preserve your gains.

The amount of mental gymnastics performed by these guys to justify hilariously stupid physical decisions is simply colossal. I applaud folks like Chloe Ting (a "cardio bunny" aesthetic youtuber who specialize in Calistenics) who roast these guys by challenging them (bodybuilder roid bros) to keep up with her on her exercise routines. Watching these dudes collapse again and again because they have pathetic endurance and don't do meaningful cardio reminds is delicious to say the least.

If you get your diet advice from Zyzz, Rich Piana, or the rest of the memeloards of fitness, you deserve what's coming to you. Don't skip leg day.

[edanm]

> The amount of mental gymnastics performed by these guys to justify hilariously stupid physical decisions is simply colossal.

This is a very ungenerous and incorrect take.

It is their prerogative to decide what outcome they want to maximize when it comes to their own body. I don't think any bodybuilder is under the delusion that they are particularly healthy when on the bodybuilding stage - they're not trying to be healthy, they're trying to win a specific competition with specific rules around it.

You might not like their goal or think it's stupid, but they are making the correct decisions for the outcomes they care about, and there's nothing wrong with caring about different things.

[paulddraper]

Does she keep up with them on their lifts?

[Natsu]

> Anyone who has done extensive athletic physical activity knows that you will up your calorie intake unless you take explicit and intentional effort not to.

It also seems to be harder to dial your dietary intake back down if you cease that extra activity.

[tpm]

After I started doing moderately long and fast bike rides (200+km/week, flat and hilly terrain, averaging 70km/ride during summer, 100+ if I have enough time), I have found that:

- compared to "not much exercise" (some periods during winter), it modulates my hunger. I do not eat more, or only proportionally.

- when the rides are longer than cca. 50km, I start losing weight (not just water, weight, sustained)

- after several days with no exercise, my hunger starts to increase again. In other words, I have to exercise to not overeat. I don't understand this effect, but it works for me, and it's been like this for many years.

[StanislavPetrov]

This depends on what you consider "extensive".

About 10 years ago I started taking 45 minute daily walks with no other changes in my diet or activities and the extra weight (about 15 lbs overweight) melted away. I made absolutely no effort to eat less and didn't get any hungrier.

[xedrac]

Walking is quite special in this regard, because it doesn't seem to result in the same compensatory eating that more intense exercise does.

[Mawr]

That depends on your pace and your previous level of activity. If the pace is average and your previous level was ~0 then yes, you're expected to benefit a lot for not much effort.

But to answer your question, walking at average pace is not extensive exercise by any means. Walking at top possible speed would be closer but would probably still not meet the bar. You'd need to incorporate running at moderate pace with a few periods of all-out sprinting into your walking routine.

[nottorp]

One could say that your eating habits were borderline enough to maintain your current weight.