[block_dagger]

I've found that training yourself to enjoy the feeling of hunger (intermittent fasting) is a boon to weight loss. Another tip: fully chew your food, and eat slowly. Don't try to satiate yourself at every meal. It takes a lot of effort at first, but it's very effective. You start to respect food (and your own body's processes) much more.

[refurb]

Backing it up a bit - not only enjoy being hungry, but recognizing it in the first place.

Lots of overweight people have never been hungry in their whole life. They eat on a schedule, so have an appetite, but real hunger? Never more than the grumbles of an empty stomach.

But it would benefit them to not eat until they are hungry. Then have a small meal. Feel what it's like to be satiated, not full, just satiated. The notice how long it takes to feel hungry again.

Then try being really hungry. Like "I woke up from a deep sleep at 3am and felt a ravenous need to eat something".

I've found that my sense of hunger was reset by this process. I get hungry if I don't eat a meal, but it's not a big deal. I can ignore it. Another 6 hours and I'll start to be really hungry. Then I can have something small.

I don't find it hard to keep a healthy weight any more. It's not difficult to eat to a slight caloric deficit and lose weight if needed.

[Fire-Dragon-DoL]

I suspect it's different per person, when I'm hungry, I cannot think properly and it negatively affects work

[MrMcCall]

I like to say, "Make hunger your friend."

That is the way to begin the process of getting a little hungry and then appreciating it as it grows. Taking that extra time then makes finally eating more enjoyable, in my experience.

And your tip on fully chewing food is subtle but powerful. It's very much in the spirit of being more engaged in the moment, where gratitude settles us down and keeps our worries at bay, for at least some small moments.

[ehnto]

Also helps stop you choking to death. A non-trivial issue, in the context of increasing isolation in modern society.

[f1shy]

Hunger is the feeling that we feel when the body is about to start using fat reserves. There is no way to loose weight without feeling hunger.

Much more still than hunger, you have to fight the “I would like to eat something” feeling.

[ConspiracyFact]

>Hunger is the feeling that we feel when the body is about to start using fat reserves. There is no way to loose weight without feeling hunger.

I don't know what the science says, but from personal experience, this is false. I've lost weight without feeling hungry.

[f1shy]

Science says in most normal cases, should be like that. The hunger can be masked by other pleasure hormones, that is why exercise is important, to set endorphins free.

Mind to give more insight in how to loose weight without ever feeling the need to eat at all? There are thousands of books that claim that, but no one delivers… ask me how I know.

[hilux]

> Hunger is the feeling that we feel when the body is about to start using fat reserves.

None of that is true, but particularly the first part.

Hunger is what you feel when your ghrelin levels rise.

[f1shy]

I find absolutely shocking that you say what I claim is false, and your justification is “ Hunger is what you feel when your ghrelin levels rise.”.

Ghrelin is one of many ways to feel hungry, and also has many other functions: also participates in regulation of reward cognition, learning and memory, the sleep-wake cycle, taste sensation, reward behavior, and glucose metabolism, for example. The exact mechanics of hormones in the body is far from being completely understood.

Independent of that, the fact that you know the name of an hormone, does not even remotely make my claim false. The question is “what triggers the ghrelin?”. Part of the answer is circadian timing (what I mean with “I would like to eat”) but also the body need for energy (start using reserves).

So yes ghrelin is involved. So what?

[hilux]

From reading that non-sequitur, I'm guessing that you are a bot, powered by someone's home-trained LLM.

Which is fine(?), but usually these go to reddit.

[AnimalMuppet]

Personal attacks may go on reddit. Don't do that here.

Even more: He made a reasonable reply. You answered with an ad hominem. When you don't actually answer, it makes it look like you can't actually answer.

[hilux]

I'm not sure if you're talking to me – but it's an objective fact (that you should google) that ghrelin levels determine hunger.

Everything in his first message is objectively false, specifically that hunger means your body is eating fat. That is wrong, wishful thinking, and made up. How can I be more clear?

And everything in the follow up response seems irrelevant, rambling, moving the goalpost. (Hence the LLM observation.)

> When you don't actually answer

When I don't answer what?

[f1shy]

I am not a bot. I’m just answering with the best knowledge of what was told to me by people much more smarter than me, in the hope that it can help somebody else.

[d0mine]

People feel hungry when it is time to eat (ghrelin, leptin hormones). You can eat once per day and feel hungry just before the meal.

More extreme example: hunger typically subsides after approximately three days during a water fast (you eat nothing and no hunger)

[1209412comb]

You can just eat calorically less dense food a.k.a more veggie. Fasting is very hard, and also dangerous if you faint while driving.

[block_dagger]

I've never fainted from caloric restriction. If you faint when you fast, get checked for an underlying health issue.

[hilux]

> Fasting is very hard, and also dangerous if you faint while driving.

What is the logical connection between the first part of that sentence and the second?!

[f1shy]

Fasting for less than 24hs should bot be a problem. If it is, there is something wrong that has to be checked.