[sonicanatidae]

I cannot wait to read the reviews about which core piece of smartphones they fucked up with this one. After 3 Pixels, ALL with issues that never should have been present, I decided Google can shove it's Pixel phones.

I prefer AOSP, rather than all the shitty overlays, so I went with Pixels and just FML. Complete pieces of shit.

What kind of fucking clowns make a smartphone with a shitty, barely functional fingerprint reader, in this decade?

GL to anyone that uses them, and I sincerely hope YMMV.

[palata]

I have heard really good things about the Pixels. Also GrapheneOS supports almost exclusively Pixels, so I would think that they aren't that bad.

[yjftsjthsd-h]

> Also GrapheneOS supports almost exclusively Pixels, so I would think that they aren't that bad.

I don't think that necessarily follows; GrapheneOS uses the Pixel line because it lets you install a custom ROM and relock the bootloader, and they're a security-focused ROM so that's a big deal to them.

[palata]

Hmm I think it's not only that: "We strongly recommend only purchasing one of the following devices [those are exclusively Pixels] for GrapheneOS due to better security and a long minimum support guarantee from launch for full security updates and other improvements": https://grapheneos.org/faq#recommended-devices

This is the list of requirements: https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices

[yjftsjthsd-h]

That's fair; it's not just the bootloader, but I would still argue that all those are security-centric and not a general quality thing.

[palata]

Sure. My point was just that there is value for those who care about security.

Also I have quite a few friends (many Android devs) who have had Pixels for years, and seem happy. My point was that I don't think Pixels are particularly bad. In fact, they are pretty good in some metrics. And very far from being "pieces of shit" like the original comment is saying.

I personally have a Fairphone, which I believe is very good in what it does. But very different from e.g. a Samsung flagship, of course.

[sonicanatidae]

I sincerely hope your experience is different from mine.

My experience was, "overpriced garbage".

[palata]

Sure, that can happen I guess. I just wanted to say that I have seen happy users of Pixels for years :-).

[sonicanatidae]

I swap between Androids and iPhones every 18-24 months, so I can stay current on both. I use both equally well, and find both to be fine, generally.

I've used a lot of Androids over the years, but the Pixels, in my case, all had substantial issues that never should have been, which really is garbage, considering the price.

[kenmacd]

> After 3 Pixels, ALL with issues that never should have been present, I decided Google can shove it's Pixel phones.

I can understand issues, but what I can't forgive is Google not taking responsibility for those issues.

My mother had a Pixel 3 that died an EDL-death at around 3 years old. She wasn't a heavy phone user, and this was obviously a defect, but yet Google would do nothing (Case ID [9-9224000032592] Google). They suggested paying $411 for a repair when second-hand phones were selling for $300.

My mom was planning on trading it in when the Pixel 6 was released, but it failed about a month before and as it wasn't working Google also wouldn't accept it towards an upgrade.

7-year software upgrades are great and all, but by not standing behind their hardware I really can't recommend buying them.