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by yjftsjthsd-h 780 days ago
> Also GrapheneOS supports almost exclusively Pixels, so I would think that they aren't that bad.

I don't think that necessarily follows; GrapheneOS uses the Pixel line because it lets you install a custom ROM and relock the bootloader, and they're a security-focused ROM so that's a big deal to them.
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palata 779 days ago
Hmm I think it's not only that: "We strongly recommend only purchasing one of the following devices [those are exclusively Pixels] for GrapheneOS due to better security and a long minimum support guarantee from launch for full security updates and other improvements": https://grapheneos.org/faq#recommended-devices

This is the list of requirements: https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices

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yjftsjthsd-h 779 days ago
That's fair; it's not just the bootloader, but I would still argue that all those are security-centric and not a general quality thing.
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palata 779 days ago
Sure. My point was just that there is value for those who care about security.

Also I have quite a few friends (many Android devs) who have had Pixels for years, and seem happy. My point was that I don't think Pixels are particularly bad. In fact, they are pretty good in some metrics. And very far from being "pieces of shit" like the original comment is saying.

I personally have a Fairphone, which I believe is very good in what it does. But very different from e.g. a Samsung flagship, of course.

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