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That kind of consent popup is illegal in the EU, please report them to your local DPA. Rejecting data collection must be just as easy as accepting it.
Also watch out for the use of "legitimate interest". I have seen banks trying to deprive customers of their right to refuse data collection, data sharing and marketing messages, claiming legitimate interest.
As I understand it, the law provides reasonable limits on what is covered by its legitimate interest provision. Violation of the law is widespread because everyone knows the enforcement is a joke.
I think if it was in a court of law it'd be quite difficult to prove beyond reasonable doubt that it's malicious unless it was literally something as obvious as `Thread.sleep(5000)` rather than the software just being badly written. I managed to introduce a really annoying and very specific timing issue a few weeks ago completely by accident for example, I reckon the accused would just say 'non-consent is processed differently to consent for $legacy_cruft reasons and it's quite slow, we're incompetent but we're not malicious'.
Not to get too targeted at people here... but I need to get something off my chest on this topic, and your comment serves as a pretty decent launching point.
I'm not going to be saying this to attack people, but I am going to be pretty stern and resolute in my language here. Fair warnings have been given.
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Tobr, and anyone concerned...
For this kind of thing to occur, every single one of you out there would need to grow a backbone.(no offense, but its true.) I can't begin to start complaining about how many spineless fuckwits are out there letting these kinds of people like google get away with this all the fucking time, all because no one ever actually stands up for each other. Sure, they'll virtue signal when someone makes a scene, stuff like that.
But when the chips are down and its time to fight, these cowards run. These spineless fuckwits that ruin our society is all of you. All of you who never stand up against your boss. All of you who never tell your teachers off when they are in the wrong. All of you who never tell your families to be better, because they'll just act worse. Or your supposed so called 'friends'.
This problem is much deeper than just Google Tobr and crew reading this. This problem goes straight down to the heart of the reason as to why humanity just can't seem to catch a break in regards to evil people out there.
Remember, google's only good advice ever, they screwed up. "Don't be Evil."
They are evil, because all of you are gullible cowards; with only a few exceptions existing and not as a rule.
And to those who figure "You're wrong!"
PROVE IT. Get out there and do something useful for once in regards to this problem. I might believe you then.
The only way that’s going to happen with an empirical world order (the United States) is either by full-fledged political revolution or war with a competing power.
The American state prioritizes corporate interests by design. This is how industrial capitalism works and always has worked. And the EU is a dependent of the US, not an alternative to it.
The Western neoliberal consensus of the past half-century has caused people to forget how power works, and nowhere is that more clear than in these utopian calls for regulation on Hacker News.
You can’t have your cake and eat it too. Capitalism or a society. Pick one.
All of them were won by fierce mass labor movements, which were then aggressively suppressed and wiped from the curriculums during the McCarthyist era, prior to the neoliberal era. And those hard-won protections have been eroding ever since. These things don’t just fall from the sky.
Since you mention “work hour limits”, look up the Haymarket Strike in Chicago that won the 40 hour work week for private employees in the US, but not before police shot and killed 4 peacefully striking workers.
If getting shot to death for not working is freedom then what do you consider slavery?
If organized workers withholding their collective labor to exercise power over the means of production is capitalism, then what do you consider socialism?
> The Western neoliberal consensus of the past half-century
> You can’t have your cake and eat it too. Capitalism or a society. Pick one.
I think what we're seeing here is the breakdown of the neo-liberal consensus, and at least the specific form of capitalism that comes with it. We see this on both the left and the right (consider that neither Trump nor Sanders support neo-liberalism). It's still the status quo for now, but even amongst the mainstream of the mainstream I'm seeing a waning of support. That hasn't been followed by actions yet, but I think it's only a matter of time.
There seems to be broad recognition that these companies have too much control on our lives, and I expect a wave of regulation of things like consent for tracking, interoperability between services and right to repair to come through soon. Probably first in the EU with the US following. The GDPR has shown that it's possible, and already completely changed the conversation around data retention.
How is that regulation going to happen? What mechanisms of power are going to oversee such a thing? With all due respect, I think you have everything right except for this. I think you’re dreaming. These kinds of blessings don’t just fall from the sky.
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