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by eastdakota 2150 days ago
I pinged our Trust & Safety team to take another look.
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Going forward, what changes will you make so that people don't have to make Hackernews posts to get support?
To be clear -- the website owner can always reply to the email they receive from our Trust & Safety team. That goes directly to our team. This individual could also do that if they had further questions for the team.

Hackernews isn't a necessary route, and quite frankly no changes need to be made to existing policies. The individual could directly reach out team via a reply to the email they received. It seems in this case the person just didn't like the reply they received. That's quite different.

So if they didn't like the reply they received, why have they now been reinstated after posting publicly on hn?

Sounds like if nothing is wrong with the policy, then the company is applying the policy inconsistently.

Exactly.

Too often these email replies are automated and nobody looks at them. Even more so they briefly look and just say sorry still banned.

Only when it's raised publicly does somebody ACTUALLY look.

OP - I suggest adding some info to your profile or post here so they can identify you? Not sure if you can do that without revealing yourself to everyone else...
Yup. What’s domain in question?
I did not delete any of the Workers because I thought that would potentially make me look guilty to CF support. This Worker domain is in my account:

https://ip2.surprise.workers.dev/

The proxy's are also at *.surprise.workers.dev.

I ran out of text characters for the post. I am 99% sure none of the sites were compromised / hosting malware and 100% sure they were not hosting illegal or objectionable content.
Hi eastdokota, nobody got in touch with me. Could you follow up with the team? Again thank you.
All sorted :) Thank you.
He's the CEO, I doubt there is anyone in company who doesn't know him.
vonseel is referring to the poster.
Was considering moving some domains to CF registrar as have used CF for DNS for myself and clients and love it. But so get terrified that while I would never do anything intentionally to get banned/suspended that if someday was wrongly suspended that there isn’t a clear path to reach a real person to get the issue resolved. I imagine there are an unbelievable number of bad actors and so CF and other providers have to balance that. But for people to feel comfortable using very popular services like CF there needs to be a clear path for people to prove there case and get issues resolved quickly without having to always resort to trending on HN. And hopefully the process would always involve emailing the person first with steps on how to resolve the issue. I have faith CF will be able to improve in this area as they seem to have a brilliant set of people working there.
I highly doubt it will get better as they grow. I think it will get worst actually as it does with most larger organizations.

Even with an enterprise support contract the idea of calling is completely discouraged to the point it's hidden behind menus of finding a customized code to call support. Their e-mail support is a pain also because there are different techs responding with different ideas to solve a question. They don't have chat support which is annoying as well in this day and age. If you want things done, their account management team gets it done fast when on boarding.

Although the product is really good and has some limitations which are annoying but if you can deal without support this is a great product. Also their post postmortems are amazing.

Thank you so much! If I breached the ToC, I unreservedly apologize, but no ill intent was intended.
Hello, I am from Cloudflare Trust and Safety. Can you please provide us with the domain name in question ?
Thank you friend. My workers domains are at *.surprise.workers.dev

I did not delete any code or make any changes to avoid looking guilty when CF support took a look at it.

I do plan on deleting the proxies. I am done being clever. I do have some useful workers that I would like to keep.

Thank you. Our team will look into this and get back to you.
Hi sonstry, sadly nobody got in touch with me.
All sorted :) Thank you.
Are you concerned about the lack of recourse through official channels?