[ffsm8]

It's actually not, because nothing provides as much satiety as protein.

Every calorie you get from protein reduces your cravings for food significantly more then the equivalent carb and fats.

You still need to get over the initial insulin normalization though from reducing sugars. Nothing reduces that pain, no matter what you try.

[astura]

I truly believe that satiety is dependent entirely on 1) what you're used to eating and 2) what you expect/culture. Years ago I was watching a video that interviewed a guy who owned an international fast food franchise somewhere in Asia, a burger place, like a McDonald's. He was saying a big difference between America and wherever they were was that they absolutely, positively MUST serve rice because in their culture most people don't find that burgers produce satiety, you need the rice otherwise you're still hungry.

[vladvasiliu]

I've never had rice with burgers nor do I have an "Asian eating expectation/culture", but I absolutely do avoid McDonald's and the like because I feel hungry and lethargic shortly after eating there.

However, after a nice home-made burger I won't feel hungry again until the next meal and am full of energy. This isn't a tiny burger, either, I'll usually slap an egg on a 150g patty with some cheese for good measure. Since this is an "I'm too lazy to actually cook" meal, this tends to go with some kind of potatoes. I think the only difference between the two is the quality of the ingredients (added sugar in ketchup = bad, tomatoes are plenty sweet).

I think the difference absolutely comes down to what I eat. I don't put sugar syrup or whatever makes the McDonald's sauces so sweet in my burger, just basic boiled tomato sauce (so that it's thicker and doesn't make a mess). And I think that not only typical fast-food places are guilty of this. I've had similar outcomes after eating in "regular" brasseries around Paris what, on the face of it, wouldn't be considered "fast food".

[oarfish]

I think there was a study last year or so that investigated whether protein rich meals actually made people consume less calories, and i think it didnt really, despite the fact that it feels more satiating and the TEF is also higher than for carbs.

So i think for long term weight changes it doesnt really help, at least not via its satiety response. Probably more through displacing other stuff from the diet and improved body composition.

[MegaDeKay]

Protein is more satiating "if and only if you are not getting enough protein for optimum body recomposition" which Menno in another video puts at 0.8g per lb of body mass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHLXank1PPk

Menno's videos are exceptional: science based and backed up by common sense.

[JeremyNT]

Fiber is better for satiety than excessive protein (and has other benefits).

[hombre_fatal]

If that were true, then protein powder would be satiating (it's not) and potatoes wouldn't be the most satiating food.

This is just more bro-science chained onto bro-science.

[MegaDeKay]

Agree 100%. But lemme tell ya, "protein fluff" make from 150g skim milk, 10g protein powder, and 3g Xanthan gum whipped into a still meringue by a stand mixer is the most satiating thing I've ever eaten and it isn't even close. It is like the meringue doesn't collapse back down right away in your stomach so it is like eating (tasty) closed cell foam. I used to make it from a full cup of milk but had trouble finishing it. It's crazy filling and a godsend when cutting.

I found it needs to be skim milk. Otherwise the fat in regular milk seemed to prevent the meringue from setting up.

[xarope]

I do two scoops of greek yoghurt and a scoop of protein, and that's like eating ice cream :-P