[bitpush]

> First we have to close every company that depend on ads to survive. All of them.

Spoken like someone who has never built anything of value in the world. Even Apple, who famously "hates advertising and adtech companies" makes ads to promote their products. Ads exist for a reason.

Your statement is no better than "if your company emits carbon, you need to close". Sounds nice. Doesn't work

[roscas]

This talk will never end. But let me make something clear.

I bought products and software before. Because I wanted them and the software was good. I used it. I even payed for apps that we 99% free and the pro version almost had anything more than the free version but I still payed, to thank the programmer. And not even use anything from the pro version.

My statements were radical. It has to be, to wake up people, because everyone seems to think ads are normal.

And ads on the web are not normal. It's a cancer. They are abusive. You can see that when companies like Facebook and Google make money.

Marketing is the cancer. If your business is to trick people and make them stay on your anti-social-plataform because they know how to mess with your mind and you don't even have a clue of what is going on... oh Facebook, Twitter, TikTok, others...

There will always be someone who says oh I don't mind ads, there might be something I need...

[lcnPylGDnU4H9OF]

Just curious: how do you feel about print ads in, e.g., a magazine or newspaper (that one receives via subscription rather than snail mail spam)?

[prinny_]

“Depends on ads to survive” is wildly different from “uses ads to promote the product it depends on to survive”. Apple doesn’t generate revenue from running ads. Google does because you can pay google to promote your ads and google makes money even when your product doesn’t sell.

[bitpush]

> Apple doesn’t generate revenue from running ads.

Oh, how mistaken you are. Apple runs a profitable ads business. Not as cute as meta or Google, but still meaningful.

Earn revenue with advertising on Apple News - Apple Support https://support.apple.com/guide/news-publisher/earn-revenue-...

Apple doesn't report Ad business numbers in quarterly earnings report, so we have to rely on third party analyst reports.

> Last year, Apple’s U.S. ad business totaled $6.47 billion, but only accounted for 2.1% of total digital ad spending, according to eMarketer’s March 2025 forecast

https://digiday.com/marketing/when-it-comes-to-ads-apple-isn...