[knodi123]

Did I miss the vote we had on broadband speed goals, or whether we should publish prices?

Get outta here with that. Most of Trump's outrageous policies are incredibly unpopular, even among his base. He's just enacting the wildly unpopular Project 2025, which he denied ever hearing of while hiring 70% of its authors into his administration.

[SV_BubbleTime]

> Most of Trump's outrageous policies are incredibly unpopular, even among his base.

News to me. I read liberal and conservative sites; I think you are dead wrong from what I’ve seen.

The most common comment I see on conservative sites is “I voted for this” “This is what I voted for” or some variation. Everything except the handling of the Epstein information.

[dartharva]

How confident are you in the authenticity of posts and comments on these "liberal and conservative sites"?

[SV_BubbleTime]

What a strange accusation. One of the liberal places I read is here, where the discourse usually isn’t that far from Reddit Politics just with more self-righteousness (sometimes, most of the time it’s okay).

Why would you doubt that I read legitimate conservative sites? I read enough to know how brigaded Reddit Conservative is, that’s not real. I spent a lot of time with an actually balanced source of news.

[dartharva]

Which sites exactly? Just curious, I would also like to check them out.

[const_cast]

You're outting yourself as an unreliable narrator - HN isn't liberal, it's typical moderate neo-lib.

Youre assuming HN must be liberal because it's somewhat critical of Trump. You're reverse-engineering your position.

HN isn't critical of Trump because they're libs, they're critical of Trump because he's bad and the policy is bad.

I mean, raising the deficit by trillions in exchange for A REDUCTION in public services? How can any conservative American, anywhere, possibly defend that? They didn't vote for that!

[SV_BubbleTime]

> HN isn't liberal

Hot take.

Turns out there is larger diversity of thought with conservative voters. Not everyone has to agree or like every action. Immigration alone if it’s handled as it has been will lead to President Vance.

[danaris]

Anecdote is not the plural of data.

Every poll shows all these things are wildly unpopular among the general public, and very unpopular among Republicans.

It's nearly impossible to define "Trump's base" with any rigor, so no statistics are ever going to directly address that.

The sites you read are either dominated by a few loud minority voices, or are just echo chamber bubbles disconnected from the broader reality of how people feel.

...Well, actually, there's another possible explanation: the people on those sites may feel they need to continue to signal their allegiance to Trump, or lose support/connection from the other people there.

Regardless, your personal experience does not outweigh numerous polls conducted by institutions across the political spectrum.

[SV_BubbleTime]

None of what you said is actually correct, it is what you want to be correct.

[watwut]

> very unpopular among Republicans.

Wanna bet they will vote again for the same kind of politics? There is no shift in republican or conservative politics or decision making visible. The policies are "unpopular" among those personally affected, but they still blame Biden for that.

I dont know why there is this need to knee jerk excuse replican politicians and voters, trying to cast them sane or seeking rational goal or having moral anger over stuff that literally does not bother then in the slightest.

They wanted this and they are happy it is happening. They will continue so until they themselves are hurt a lot ... and then they will blame democrats.

[danaris]

> Wanna bet they will vote again for the same kind of politics?

Obviously, that is hard to say for sure from issue polls this far from any election, and many of them do, indeed, just vote Republican no matter what.

But the fact that these actions and policies are unpopular, even among Republicans (no matter what Mr. BubbleTime up there wants to believe), when Trump's acts during his first term were much less so, does suggest that there are some lines that many of them do not want to cross. (Even if those lines may be only in opinion, not in action.)