[base698]

The argument goes: Because 3% of the population is antisocial personality disorder in the screens on TV and the internet tell them it's okay to commit violence against you because Nazis.

You may not care but the crazy people care a lot.

[kshmir]

I still don't care. I may just buy another Tesla and a handgun :)

[ben_w]

> I still don't care. I may just buy another Tesla and a handgun :)

That kind of escalation is very American of you.

I'd like to remind you of the demonstration of the "bulletproof" windows of the Cybertruck and consider quite how bad things may get if Americans don't learn to live with each other without constantly laughing about "triggering" each other when the more literal trigger is on the firearms you have a constitutional right to own.

That so many are, like yourself, so blasé about the risks, was one reason I decided against migrating to the USA when I had the chance.

[tekknik]

so you’re advocating for the “peaceful” protests to be allowed to continue? adults know this is improper behavior by the left, but we must just let it play out to avoid triggering the “protesters” who didn’t get their way in the election? why can’t they just act like adults?

[ben_w]

> so you’re advocating for the “peaceful” protests to be allowed to continue? adults know this is improper behavior by the left, but we must just let it play out to avoid triggering the “protesters” who didn’t get their way in the election? why can’t they just act like adults?

The only change I have to do to make to your comment for it to be about the events of Jan 6 2021, is a single "left" becoming "right".

Now, as a non-American who isn't immunised and calloused to your nation's vocal rhetoric and use of literal gun sights in political campaign posters, I can't tell how close you are to a civil war.

I would rather not watch you have one, not even at this distance. So please, figure out how to not be cruel to each other.

I didn't call the arson attacks "peaceful".

[mlindner]

Two wrongs don't make a right. (Heck they're even different classifications of wrongs and not remotely comparable given that they're very different.)

> So please, figure out how to not be cruel to each other.

It'd start by Europeans not egging on Americans to be complicit with or actively commit violence against other people's property.

[ben_w]

> Two wrongs don't make a right. (Heck they're even different classifications of wrongs and not remotely comparable given that they're very different.)

Yes. Only one of "invading Capitol buildings to disrupt election confirmation while chanting 'Hang Mike Pence'" and "arson against private company and their vehicles" is actually attempting to overturn an election.

But both can be described by the comment I quoted, modulo s/left/right/

> It'd start by Europeans not egging on Americans to be complicit with or actively commit violence against other people's property.

I'm literally saying to chill and not escalate. Calling for you to not wind each other up. Musk, however: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5ydddy3qzgo

[lvass]

This is exactly the type of thing that makes me like America. Taking risks is an essential part of life and the more open you are to sane risks, the better. The reason I don't move there is tax laws, but boy do I, as a third worlder, want a "gold card".

[ben_w]

> sane risks

On the Venn diagram of "risky things" and "sane things", there's a lot of overlap.

But I'd say "aggravating people who have a right to bear guns" is not in the overlap.

[coldpie]

It's a lot less fun than it sounds. https://www.kare11.com/article/news/crime/woman-shot-by-stra...

[ben_w]

That link redirects to their YouTube channel home page.

[coldpie]

Sorry, local news websites are a disaster. You can probably find the story by searching terms from the URL slug. That particular story doesn't really matter, it was just the most recent one in my area that came to mind. There is no shortage of similar stories across the US.

[soco]

You may think yourself as very American, but the real Americans voted to keep you (and pretty much everybody else, don't worry) of their America. I call this cognitive dissonance (or trolling, I'm too simple to tell).

[tekknik]

no we didn’t. we voted to keep illegal immigrants out. literally nobody has a problem with immigrants using legal methods.

[ben_w]

> literally

Court order, H1B, still deported: https://www.newsweek.com/medical-doctor-deported-us-despite-...

[anigbrowl]

Questionable. There are lots of people opposed to legal immigration, if you are not aware of this now you soon will be.

https://www.wmur.com/article/german-national-fabian-schmidt-...

[Balgair]

Not to dogpile too much here, but I think 1992's Unforgiven directed by and staring Clint Eastwood does the best here when it comes to my feeling about this comment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTjBR0jicAo

Bill Munny: It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. You take away all he's got, and all he's ever gonna have.

Schofield Kid: Yeah. Well I guess they had it coming.

Bill Munny: We all have it coming, kid.

The acting here is much better than these simple lines as well as the lead up to them.

Suffice to say, talking about dealing death over property online is a lot easier than living with it.

[sMarsIntruder]

That’s what real freedom it really is.

Finally I start reading some sanity over here.

[adamdonahue]

This.

[jackstraw14]

so wonderful to share this country with folks like you! please consider shifting your scope outside yourself and your own personal protection, and consider the greater good at least occasionally, please.

[margalabargala]

Murdering vandals is still murder. You will be locked in a small box and deserve it.

[mlindner]

Self defense is not murder. Definitionally. That depends on the state however. It can be murder, so take care.

[margalabargala]

Sure.

People driving Teslas haven't been getting physically assaulted, so self defense isn't what we're talking about here.

[kshmir]

It's never about shooting.

[Zigurd]

Not quite never, but statistically it would end up being you or some member of your household, by accident or intentional self harm.