[margalabargala]

Murdering vandals is still murder. You will be locked in a small box and deserve it.

[mlindner]

Self defense is not murder. Definitionally. That depends on the state however. It can be murder, so take care.

[margalabargala]

Sure.

People driving Teslas haven't been getting physically assaulted, so self defense isn't what we're talking about here.

[kshmir]

It's never about shooting.

[Zigurd]

Not quite never, but statistically it would end up being you or some member of your household, by accident or intentional self harm.