[caminante]

Who is disputing that fact? LOL!

Meanwhile, you can't defend how that or the cumulative argument (which you abandoned) is relevant. I've acknowledged and pointed out the flaws in these points.

Edit: I'll also note that your undefined sense of "fairness" over accountability doesn't take into account how China is using slave labor and Uygurs to build PVs.

Just take the "L".

[DrScientist]

It's you that's trying to move the goalposts - the original post was about per capita emissions - and it's indisputable that the US puts out more using that metric.

And in terms of prison labour ( another attempt at mis-direction by you ) - slave labour is effectively still legal in the US - the US has the largest prison population in the world ( by far ) and compulsory work from prisoners is legal.

So the US just moved from explicit slave labour, to imprisoning people and forcing them to work...... and yes - if you are from a particular racial minority you are much more likely to be subjected to this....

[caminante]

> the original post was about per capita emissions

The? You mean your post. You introduced it. No wonder you're not making sense, given you can't follow your own comments.

Now you're saying slavery is legal "effectively" in the US? Stop embarrassing yourself.

[DrScientist]

1.8 million or so in US prisons.

The total world prison population is estimated at around 11.5 million.

China is second - with about 1.7 million - however that's at a rate of about 1/5 of the US.

It's legal to force those 1.8 million to work in the US and some states don't even compensate - and in addition your something like 6 times more likely to suffer it if you black.

So you have a legally endorsed method of forcing people to work in the US, often without any pay - just saying if it quacks and walks like a duck.....

[caminante]

LOL! You can't even switch topics without being wrong. Your figure comes from this report [0], which disputes your China figure.

> Figures for [...] China are incomplete[...] The China figures are for sentenced prisoners only. Figures for pre-trial detention and other forms of detention are not available; more than 650,000 were so held in 2009 (Supreme People’s Procuratorate). In addition, it is widely reported that more than a million Uighur Muslims are detained in camps in Xinjiang province.

Thanks for the laugh.

[0] https://www.prisonstudies.org/sites/default/files/resources/...

[DrScientist]

If you add those numbers - which are guess work - then the US is still ahead per capita - rather 5x more than China - simply ~2.5x.

So you are trying to deflect again - and I notice you haven't address the key point - the existence of legalized enforced labour in the US.

If you dislike what China is doing then you should also be worried about what's happening in the US.

[caminante]

> If you add those numbers - which are guess work

Guess work? This is coming from your own source, which undermines your point!

How are you adding

a. not available pre-trial detention and other forms of detention

b. and "more than" a million Uighur Muslims?

If you can't even provide credible information, then how does one even "deflect" it?