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by caminante 505 days ago
LOL! You can't even switch topics without being wrong. Your figure comes from this report [0], which disputes your China figure.

> Figures for [...] China are incomplete[...] The China figures are for sentenced prisoners only. Figures for pre-trial detention and other forms of detention are not available; more than 650,000 were so held in 2009 (Supreme People’s Procuratorate). In addition, it is widely reported that more than a million Uighur Muslims are detained in camps in Xinjiang province.

Thanks for the laugh.

[0] https://www.prisonstudies.org/sites/default/files/resources/...
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DrScientist 504 days ago
If you add those numbers - which are guess work - then the US is still ahead per capita - rather 5x more than China - simply ~2.5x.

So you are trying to deflect again - and I notice you haven't address the key point - the existence of legalized enforced labour in the US.

If you dislike what China is doing then you should also be worried about what's happening in the US.

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caminante 504 days ago
> If you add those numbers - which are guess work

Guess work? This is coming from your own source, which undermines your point!

How are you adding

a. not available pre-trial detention and other forms of detention

b. and "more than" a million Uighur Muslims?

If you can't even provide credible information, then how does one even "deflect" it?

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DrScientist 502 days ago
Still avoiding the key point that the US has 2.5x more people per capita incarcerated than even China with all it's political prisoners - and the US legally can force these people to work against their will.

Still not pausing to think?

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caminante 502 days ago
> Still avoiding the key point...

...which your own source undermines. I can't defend your own arguments for you without quality figures.

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DrScientist 501 days ago
You threw shades at China for incarnating too many of it's own people, and being a key greenhouse gas emitter - both are true - I'm just pointing out that for both of those areas - the US beats China around 2:1 on a per capita basis if you look at the numbers.

The US incarceration numbers in particular are extraordinary - about 1 in 7 of the worlds prison population is in the US. I'd be interested in your opinion of why that is.

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