[DrScientist]

1.8 million or so in US prisons.

The total world prison population is estimated at around 11.5 million.

China is second - with about 1.7 million - however that's at a rate of about 1/5 of the US.

It's legal to force those 1.8 million to work in the US and some states don't even compensate - and in addition your something like 6 times more likely to suffer it if you black.

So you have a legally endorsed method of forcing people to work in the US, often without any pay - just saying if it quacks and walks like a duck.....

[caminante]

LOL! You can't even switch topics without being wrong. Your figure comes from this report [0], which disputes your China figure.

> Figures for [...] China are incomplete[...] The China figures are for sentenced prisoners only. Figures for pre-trial detention and other forms of detention are not available; more than 650,000 were so held in 2009 (Supreme People’s Procuratorate). In addition, it is widely reported that more than a million Uighur Muslims are detained in camps in Xinjiang province.

Thanks for the laugh.

[0] https://www.prisonstudies.org/sites/default/files/resources/...

[DrScientist]

If you add those numbers - which are guess work - then the US is still ahead per capita - rather 5x more than China - simply ~2.5x.

So you are trying to deflect again - and I notice you haven't address the key point - the existence of legalized enforced labour in the US.

If you dislike what China is doing then you should also be worried about what's happening in the US.

[caminante]

> If you add those numbers - which are guess work

Guess work? This is coming from your own source, which undermines your point!

How are you adding

a. not available pre-trial detention and other forms of detention

b. and "more than" a million Uighur Muslims?

If you can't even provide credible information, then how does one even "deflect" it?

[DrScientist]

Still avoiding the key point that the US has 2.5x more people per capita incarcerated than even China with all it's political prisoners - and the US legally can force these people to work against their will.

Still not pausing to think?

[caminante]

> Still avoiding the key point...

...which your own source undermines. I can't defend your own arguments for you without quality figures.

[DrScientist]

You threw shades at China for incarnating too many of it's own people, and being a key greenhouse gas emitter - both are true - I'm just pointing out that for both of those areas - the US beats China around 2:1 on a per capita basis if you look at the numbers.

The US incarceration numbers in particular are extraordinary - about 1 in 7 of the worlds prison population is in the US. I'd be interested in your opinion of why that is.