Hacker News new | ask | show | jobs
by hakfoo 609 days ago
We're still looking for "that is useful".

The stuff they've been trying to sell AI to the public with is increasingly looking as absurd as every 1978 "you'll store your recipes on the home computer" argument.

AI text became a Human Centipede story: Start with a coherent 10-word sentence, let AI balloon it into five pages of flowery nonsense, send it to someone else, who has their AI smash it back down to 10 meaningful words.

Coding assistance, even as spicy autocorrect, is often a net negative as you have to plow through hallucinations and weird guesses as to what you want but lack the tools to explain to it.

Image generation is already heading rapidly into cringe territory, in part due to some very public social media operations. I can imagine your kids' kids in 2040 finding out they generated AI images in the 2020s and looking at them with the same embarrassment you'd see if they dug out your high-school emo fursona.

There might well be some more "closed-loop" AI applications that make sense. But are they going to be running on every desktop in the world? Or are they going to be mostly used in datacentres and purpose-built embedded devices?

I also wonder how well some of the models and techniques scale down. I know Microsoft pushed a minimum spec to promote a machine as Copilot-ready, but that seems like it's going to be "Vista Basic Ready" redux as people try to run tools designed for datacentres full of Quadro cards, or at least high-end GPUs, on their $299 HP laptop.

3 comments

Cringe emo girls are trendy now because the nostalgia cycle is hitting the early 2000s. Your kid would be impressed if you told them you were a goth gf. It's not hard to imagine the same will happen with primitive AIs in the 40s.
Early 2000's ??

Bela Lugosi Died in 1979, and Peter Murphy was onto his next band by 1984.

By 2000 Goth was fully a distant dot in the rear view mirror for the OG's

    In 2002, Murphy released *Dust* with Turkish-Canadian composer and producer Mercan Dede, which utilizes traditional Turkish instrumentation and songwriting, abandoning Murphy's previous pop and rock incarnations, and juxtaposing elements from progressive rock, trance, classical music, and Middle Eastern music, coupled with Dede's trademark atmospheric electronics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy9h2q_dr9k

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bauhaus_(band)

I'm not sure what "gothic music existed in the 1980s" is meant to indicate as a response to "goths existed in the early 2000s as a cultural archetype".
That Goths in 2000's were at best second wave nostalgia cycle of Goths from the 1980s.

That people recalling Goths in that period should beware of thinking that was a source and not an echo.

In 2006 Noel Fielding's Richmond Felicity Avenal was a basement dwelling leftover from many years past.

True Goth died our way before any of that. They totally sold out when the sacked Rome, the gold went to their heads and everything since then has been nostalgia.
That was just the faux life Westside Visigoths .. what'd you expect?

#Ostrogoth #TwueGoth

There was a submission here a few months ago about the various incarnations of goth starting from the late Roman empire.

https://www.the-hinternet.com/p/the-goths

I expect this sort of thing to go out of fashion and/or be regulated after "AI" causes some large life loss, e.g. starting a war or designing a collapsing building.
The product isn’t released, so I don’t think we know what is or isn’t good.

People are clearly finding LLM tech useful, and we’re barely scratching the surface.