[djur]

I'm not sure what "gothic music existed in the 1980s" is meant to indicate as a response to "goths existed in the early 2000s as a cultural archetype".

[defrost]

That Goths in 2000's were at best second wave nostalgia cycle of Goths from the 1980s.

That people recalling Goths in that period should beware of thinking that was a source and not an echo.

In 2006 Noel Fielding's Richmond Felicity Avenal was a basement dwelling leftover from many years past.

[bee_rider]

True Goth died our way before any of that. They totally sold out when the sacked Rome, the gold went to their heads and everything since then has been nostalgia.

[defrost]

That was just the faux life Westside Visigoths .. what'd you expect?

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