[defrost]

Early 2000's ??

Bela Lugosi Died in 1979, and Peter Murphy was onto his next band by 1984.

By 2000 Goth was fully a distant dot in the rear view mirror for the OG's

    In 2002, Murphy released *Dust* with Turkish-Canadian composer and producer Mercan Dede, which utilizes traditional Turkish instrumentation and songwriting, abandoning Murphy's previous pop and rock incarnations, and juxtaposing elements from progressive rock, trance, classical music, and Middle Eastern music, coupled with Dede's trademark atmospheric electronics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy9h2q_dr9k

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bauhaus_(band)

[djur]

I'm not sure what "gothic music existed in the 1980s" is meant to indicate as a response to "goths existed in the early 2000s as a cultural archetype".

[defrost]

That Goths in 2000's were at best second wave nostalgia cycle of Goths from the 1980s.

That people recalling Goths in that period should beware of thinking that was a source and not an echo.

In 2006 Noel Fielding's Richmond Felicity Avenal was a basement dwelling leftover from many years past.

[bee_rider]

True Goth died our way before any of that. They totally sold out when the sacked Rome, the gold went to their heads and everything since then has been nostalgia.

[defrost]

That was just the faux life Westside Visigoths .. what'd you expect?

#Ostrogoth #TwueGoth

[carlob]

There was a submission here a few months ago about the various incarnations of goth starting from the late Roman empire.

https://www.the-hinternet.com/p/the-goths

[defrost]

Was there? This one: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41232761 ?

Nice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZvSqgn_Zf4