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by throw49sjwo1 614 days ago
It can be registered in Europe, many countries allow individual car import from the US. I have seen a few around; not on public streets (car shows), but with local plates.

You also won't have any issue getting third-party damage insurance in Europe, as the insurance companies are required to make an offer.

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I'm aware of single/custom car special procedures, but last I checked the Cybertruck can't get a type approval in any EU country. Individual registering them vs. not being able to register them doesn't really make a difference for the argument, does it?

Honestly I might even have bought a nice electric truck, but that weird box on wheels just ain't it :(

Where do you check if it can get a type approval? I don't think that's something you can easily determine just by looking at it and saying "yeah too big, doesn't look right, not european enough". There are very weird things with type approvals in Europe. Don't mistake it for some super rational land. Note that even mega-trucks can be street legal in Europe, and most traditional American big pickups like Dodge RAM are type approved - why not a Cybertruck then?

Europe will type approve anything that proves it's safe and follows basic conventions. That will most likely include the Cybertruck, as the question really isn't "is this car a good idea?" - even bad products that nobody needs or wants get type approved, and Cybertruck really will not be the worst thing that happened to European roads.

Tesla knows very well how to get a US car type approved in EU with minimal adjustments. It was very curious to watch with previous models. They are quick, too.

> Where do you check if it can get a type approval?

There's an abundance of news articles about Tesla's VP of Vehicle Engineering, Lars Moravy, saying they can't get it due to some 3.2mm exterior radius requirement that is impossible to do on the 1.4mm stainless steel they use:

https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/tesla/cybertruck/buying

https://motortrends.net/news/tesla-cybertruck-wont-enter-eur...

Well you can have a look at the rules and see for yourself, they are not that weird but very complicated. But I assume that if it would be possible, Tesla would try to get it approved.

> most of the traditional American big pickups like Dodge RAM are type approved - why not a Cybertruck then?

I'd guess pedestrian safety would be one of the main issues.

I know the rules very well, special cars are kind of my hobby. There is nothing that couldn't be minimally adjusted to meet European regulations. Pedestrian safety is definitely not an issue. There are much more unsafe vehicles than Cybertruck in that regard.

Every model Tesla introduced was US only first few years. People individually imported the first hundreds of cars during these initial years. Tesla then introduced an European version of the car with technically minimal adjustments.

Have you been able to find safety statistics for pedestrian collisions? I tried looking them up, but was unable to find any.

Naive comparisons like "the hood is lower" are not enough to make this kind of statement, as the remaining differences (sharp angles and a very different material) are too large to make this determination without actual testing.

Try to look into national government statistics agencies, these might track it. European-wide aggregate that you could trust is probably available only for money.
> Pedestrian safety is definitely not an issue. There are much more unsafe vehicles than Cybertruck in that regard.

Purely out of curiosity — can you name one or two such vehicles? I'm really interested how they are so unsafe, or rather, which byzantine (non-?)regulation deems them so unsafe :D

My point is that there is no such regulation. But anything that used to be military and sold to civilian usage would qualify. Very common in Eastern Europe, though most of the vehicles of the Cold War have rusted by now.
If the car model has CoC number, it has been type approved. EU keeps approval register. The CoC is not limited to EU It works in every European country.

Tesla has announced that they are in process of making Cybertruck version that complies with EU regulation, but Cybertruck is hard to adjust. Lack of crumple zones is a big issue.

Getting it approved as commercial vehicle should not be a problem, but nobody wants that. Not Tesla, and not the consumers.

I actually would consider an EV pickup truck. My uses for a truck are almost entirely local, so range concerns would be much less. EVs are still too expensive for me however. For now when I need to haul something that won't fit in my car, I rent a trailer.
Rivian’s are kind of nice, but I don’t know if they will survive as a company. Ford EV trucks are fine as well, I’ve driven both. I personally own a hybrid plug-in SUV which lets me go as far as I like on vacation while also letting me be pure EV for all my local driving which is probably 90% of it and I really don’t drive that much tbh