[kzrdude]

Replacement works for me. Replaced all added sugars stuff (drinks, ice cream, cookies) with fruit and the difference was very noticeable. Fruit also has its own kind of sugar, but my body runs differently on that compared with food with added sugar.

[nirav72]

I use a GCM and one thing I've noticed about fruits in general is that the glucose spike is short. Things level off on the graph fairly quickly with berries. Although there are some fruits that do cause a significant spike. Fruits like grapes, pineapple and bananas are the worst ones.

[TaylorAlexander]

Yes generally, whole fruits are considered healthy in any quantity from what research I’ve heard about.

https://youtu.be/bHnsawfk43Y

[sedatk]

Fructose (the sugar that comes from fruits) is more harmful than glucose though.

[Dolores12]

With every fruit you get healthy dose of fiber that helps digestive system to push residuals out. 3 bananas that will make you full equals 2 cans of 330ml cola and i bet you still will want to eat after that.

[sedatk]

Folks, I didn’t imply fruit is bad, but using it as a sugar substitute can be worse than using sugar.

[gnz11]

Come on, are you seriously implying fruit is somehow bad for you now?

[lambdaone]

The parent poster is right in that pure fructose is probably worse for you than an equivalent amount of pure sucrose. But the way that fructose is delivered to your body by digesting fruit - slowly, and in conjuction with other materials, in a way that we have evolved to tolerate - is entirely different from eating the pure chemical.

[gnz11]

The amount of fruit you’d have to consume to ingest unhealthy levels of fructose is astronomical. Worrying about whether fruit is unhealthy is most likely causing you more harm than the fructose in fruit. Don’t worry about eating fruit.

[coldtea]

>The amount of fruit you’d have to consume to ingest unhealthy levels of fructose is astronomical.

What's "unhealthy" here? LD50?

[jakubmazanec]

This is some latest research on this topic: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10363705/

[duckmysick]

What exactly do you mean by "this topic"? Fruits being bad for you, which is the comment you're replying to?

This is the only mention of fruit in the linked paper:

> Fructose is a simple sugar that is the primary nutrient in fruit and honey. However, in the western diet, its main source is table sugar (sucrose), which consists of fructose and glucose bound together, and high fructose corn syrup (HFCS), which consists of a blended mixture of fructose and glucose, often with slightly higher concentrations of fructose as testing has suggested humans prefer slightly more fructose as it is sweeter than glucose. Today these ‘added sugars’ account for ≈15% of overall energy intake, with some groups ingesting as much as 20% or more.

> Fructose is also generated in the body from glucose. This occurs when glucose levels (i.e. the substrate) are excessive, such as in diabetes, following the ingestion of high glycaemic carbohydrates, and by high carbohydrate diets.

Similarly, the grandparent comment "Fructose (the sugar that comes from fruits)" should read like this: "Fructose (the sugar that comes from fruits, but these days it's primarily from table sugar and processed foods)"

[jakubmazanec]

Yes, thank you; I was in a hurry and didn't write the best comment with the full context.

[hombre_fatal]

This doesn't answer the question. The question is if fruit are associated with negative health outcomes in a human population.

What you're doing is saying inflammation is bad and then inferring that exercise is bad because it increases inflammation.

[coldtea]

Not implying, it's a settled thing.

The ocassional fruit is ok, but fructose is bad, and smoothies are basically sugar bombs.

[TaylorAlexander]

This is the opposite of the research-backed claims on whole fruits from this video: https://youtu.be/bHnsawfk43Y

[will1am]

As soon as I stopped eating sugar, I started craving fruits intensely. My body began demanding compensation.

[coldtea]

And eating fruits it's almost equally bad sugar wise, especially drinking them in smoothies and such.

[TaylorAlexander]

Generally, whole fruits are considered to have positive health effects, even in studies of patients with diabetes, at nearly any quantities.

https://youtu.be/bHnsawfk43Y

[will1am]

It's important to differentiate between the types of sugars and the overall nutritional value of fruits compared to other sugary foods

[hombre_fatal]

Nonsense. Fruit has fiber and all sorts of nutrient benefits. Even your smoothie claim is false: https://www.stylist.co.uk/fitness-health/nutrition/smoothies...

[ImHereToVote]

Part of the sweetness in berries comes from other sweet compounds like Glycine for example.

[will1am]

Berries are my salvation.