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by thisgoesnowhere 811 days ago
This slippery slope/where do you draw the line argument is very weak.

It's like saying me accidentally spilling a bit while doing a oil change in my garage is the same as BP spilling hundreds of thousands of gallons of crude.

Scale matters. And "where you draw the line" can be defined loosely to be left up to interpretation at the time.

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So you are going to pass a law That says depending on size, American companies can’t create content and distribute it?

And then foreign companies are still allowed to distribute thier own content? Are you going to block them from transmitting to the US?

If Netflix decides to incorporate in Canada, are you going to stop them from distributing thier own content to US citizens?

You really don’t see a problem with the government prohibiting companies from distributing thier own content over the internet?

Does that count for newspapers? Video content created by large newspapers?

The law can be written in a way that leaves it up for interpretation. It's not a simple IFTTT statement, what's why judges exist and why they make rulings that get cited in other cases. It's a feature of our system that I don't need to answer all your needlessly pedantic questions and just leave it up to interpretation.

Because otherwise bureaucrates like you would cause everything to stall while looking into every contingency.

I also don't think you have to "pass a law" we already have laws on the book that can do this and, this might shock you, we have already used them to do almost exactly what you are saying here.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Paramount_P....

Well first that ruling was sunsetted three years for all the reasons I cited and was never a “law” binding new companies.

So now you want unelected judges to decide what can and can’t be streamed on the internet.

This is also not the 1930s. In 2024, movie distribution is not limited to physical meets theaters.

Your citation gets trotted out all of the time in these arguments like anyone in 2024 can’t put a video on a website and distribute it anywhere in the world. When the ruling was in effect, home video media didn’t even exist and even television was in its infancy.

And you still haven’t answered the question, do you also stop foreign companies from distributing thier own content ?

And there is always judge shopping, liberal judges would love to stop Fox News from distributing their own content on the internet as would conservative judges love to stop media owned by “woke” corporations

> Your citation gets trotted out all of the time in these arguments like anyone in 2024 can’t put a video on a website and distribute it anywhere in the world.

It's about scale, if you didn't read my first message then that's fine but just so you can ignore it again.

Me spilling 1 oz oil in my front yard is different that BP spilling millions of gallons.

Similarly Apple and Netflix teaming up is different than me and my local theater teaming up. If you don't like anti trust that's fine but don't act like it's impossible to understand.

And you still didn’t answer any of my questions.

But first, no one was talking about Apple and Netflix teaming up. Those are two competitors and independent companies in the same space - streaming.

The discussion was about vertical integration where one company gets to distribute its own content. It was specifically decided Epic vs Apple that a monopoly isn’t being in control of your own content. Nintendo is also not considered a “monopoly” because you can only play most of their IP on thier own hardware

You also failed to answer any of the questions

1. Should we not allow any large content producer to distribute their own content exclusively on their own website and how is video different than audio, news, books, software, physical merchandise, etc? A second part of that conversation does that also apply to news content? Religious content? Documentaries like what CNN does?

2. For digital media, should we block foreign companies that are vertically integrated from being able to be accessed by people in the US?

3. If Netflix reincorporated in Canada should we force all US ISPs not to do business with them? Should we block them like the TikTok ban that is being proposed?

What “monopoly” exactly do you think Netflix has?

I'm not answering your questions because they are stupid and you are just trying to cause inaction by being overly verbose.

> But first, no one was talking about Apple and Netflix teaming up.

I said Apple instead of Facebook to show how needlessly pedantic you are. There is absolutely no difference between Apple and Facebook here the point is the scale of the company (as I have said)

I wish you to have a needlessly pedantic life and I hope we never cross paths again.