| > Unless you've got sources I can't tell if you're seriously asking me for sources that the scientific community stance on abortion is that it is a basic right, fetuses are not human beings and abortion is not murder. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you've somehow not heard any scientific opinion on the matter despite how pervasive it is. Given how common knowledge this is I did not feel it necessary to provide sources. > Unless you've got sources, I'm going to have to respectfully disbelieve that you somehow speak for the scientific community at large Scientific position statements: ACOG (US): Abortion is an essential component of comprehensive, evidence-based health care.
https://www.acog.org/clinical-information/policy-and-positio... SOGC (Canada): In an era where restrictions limit access to abortion in only a handful of jurisdictions globally, American women now have fewer reproductive health rights than their mothers and grandmothers did. As our neighbours south of our border face a dawning crisis in health care, the Society of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists of Canada (SOGC) stands firmly in support of reproductive choice and equitable access to safe, high-quality abortion care for all people in Canada and around the world.
https://www.jogc.com/article/S1701-2163(22)00548-5/fulltext RANZCOG (AUS + NZ): The College strongly supports the availability of abortion being an essential aspect of safe healthcare delivery, and stands with healthcare professionals across the world in protecting patients’ access to care.
https://ranzcog.edu.au/news/ranzcog-statement-on-roe-v-wade-... Royal College of Obstetric and Gynecologists (UK): Like nearly 90% of the country, we believe in a woman’s right to choose. No woman should be forced to continue a pregnancy against her will.
https://www.rcog.org.uk/about-us/campaigning-and-opinions/po... WHO (International): Access to quality abortion care is a critical public health, equality and human rights issue.
https://apps.who.int/iris/rest/bitstreams/1476856/retrieve Recommend the full decriminalization of abortion. Decriminalization means removing abortion from all penal/criminal laws, not applying other criminal
offences (e.g. murder, manslaughter) to abortion, and ensuring there are no criminal penalties for having,
assisting with, providing information about, or providing abortion, for all relevant actors.
https://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/handle/10665/349316/9789... FIGO (International): Access to safe abortion is a human right and a critical component of the sexual and reproductive health and rights (SRHR) of women and girls.
https://www.figo.org/resources/figo-statements/addressing-ba... > 36 whole states https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_law_in_the_United_Sta... > and the world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_law > I'll say it again, consensus means nothing when the subject is murder. Whether your moral or religious conviction leads you to believe that human life begins at conception and therefore that abortion is murder is your prerogative but this is your opinion and completely unsupported by science, evidence, or even regulation in the majority of locales on the planet. Abortion as a basic human right endorsed by nearly every professional and scientific authority. > The entire world agreeing does not, in any way, shape objective moral truth. Objective moral truth as determined by who, you? I provided my sources, I welcome yours. |
I appreciate the good faith interpretation of my comment. Indeed I was not aware of the (seemingly) universal consensus on this topic within the scientific community. However, as I said earlier consensus does not in any way dictate morality.
Indeed I wish objective morality was determined by me, but that is not the case. By definition, it is self-evident and requiring no proof. I'd submit that the source of moral truth would be whatever has created that which is created. Though we may disagree on that, our opinions and disagreement don't change reality. (Ironically, I think we can both agree on that point).
Whether or not morality is universal does not change simply because one denies it. So again I say, the entire world coming together to congratulate itself on its "forward progress" by murdering the unborn, does not make it a good or moral thing.