[haldujai]

I’m not trying to debate or convince you of the right to or morality of abortion. Going back to your original statement of:

> If we're going by this mindset, then we have to agree that Roe v Wade is perhaps the one of the worst events in all of American history

I strongly disagree with your original assertion that by applying the excess death metric to WWII or the pandemic we consequently have to agree on the applicability to abortion which is, as you have agreed, a morality discussion.

The question of whether abortion represents a tragic loss of human life is an entirely different discussion of morality for which I respect our differing views which need not be reconciled to resolve a debate on the most appropriate statistic to quantify the loss of human life during a pandemic or war as you stated in the original comment I replied to.

In fact, your usage of “unborn” obviates the debate. “Excess deaths” are derived from the population statistic and regardless of whether one believes a fetus has achieved moral personhood or whether abortion is murder we do not count an “unborn” person in the population or birth rate statistics prior to delivery (i.e. since inception the US has never counted a pregnant female as 2 people for census purposes) therefore abortion is not relevant to this statistical measure discussion.