[chii]

But you'd think that middle management will also do the same, including hiring managers and performance monitoring etc.

But then, the ai managing those jobs would have to suck to not notice the jobs of their direct reports are being done by an ai!

So assuming the ai don't suck, they will just fire those under them and just directly use an ai, saving wages.

So in the end, the shareholders (who is in ultimate control) will just have hired an ai to manage and produce.

[torstenvl]

> the ai managing those jobs would have to suck to not notice the jobs of their direct reports are being done by an ai!

What if the employee's AI just intentionally fails the inverse Turing test?

[throw1234651234]

Middle management already doesn't do anything, so no change there.

[add-sub-mul-div]

You only believe this until you've had/needed a great manager.

[throw1234651234]

Had a couple, overwhelming majority is worthless. I have to cover their work all the time. It's literally "hey can you put together a plan" and then "can you analyze this plan..". Combined with an utter refusal to solve any real problems because that could lead to conflict and make them look bad.

[SkyPuncher]

That’s called delegating. It’s considered good practice since it give manager reports exposure and involvement outside the team.

At the end of the day, a manager is responsible for the entire team.

[throw1234651234]

Wrong. It's called not doing anything. Delegation involves understanding the work and thoughtfully passing it out and then aggregating the results. Doing so without any consideration makes the process less efficient.

[mikestew]

I realize the impossibility of it happening, but I would love for a former manager to chime in one of these "management is worthless" posts and give us the low-down on the quality of throw1234's work. As the saying goes, there's three sides to every story...

[throw1234651234]

They wouldn't know, because they don't do anything, engage, or care about the product.. When they appear or leave, nothing changes on the team, unless they want to mimic action and over-correct and create issues with other teams or management.

P.S. I understand what you are doing here, but it's funny because you set it up the conversation for this literally true reply inadvertently instead.

P.S.S. emphasis on "care" - there is a lot of business layers that go through the motions and it just backfires because there is no understanding or intent in it. A bit harder to be that level of present but mentally absent as a dev.

[bratbag]

Said no one who has ever been a teamlead in desperate need of support.

They are not there for you. They are there for me so I can be there to support you