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They wouldn't know, because they don't do anything, engage, or care about the product.. When they appear or leave, nothing changes on the team, unless they want to mimic action and over-correct and create issues with other teams or management.

P.S. I understand what you are doing here, but it's funny because you set it up the conversation for this literally true reply inadvertently instead.

P.S.S. emphasis on "care" - there is a lot of business layers that go through the motions and it just backfires because there is no understanding or intent in it. A bit harder to be that level of present but mentally absent as a dev.