[Demmme]

Just an anecdotal counter point: very happy with gcp.

Best network from all and coherent modern ui.

Not the usability hell like azure... (You know when clicking on a often used resource on the start page which let's you jump directly to it but doesn't allow you to jump a level up of all the other resources of the same type which totally works fine when you navigate to it the normal way... Or the huge hassle and complexity of resource groups for f everything...)

But you know the tweet not even states what quota was reduced.

[faizshah]

I love the GCP UI and the DX in general of their cloud offerings. I also love the feature set of Cloud Run, BigQuery, and DataFlow.

My only problem with GCP is that their support is horrible, I much prefer AWS support that’s why I can’t use GCP beyond my hobby projects.

I’m trying out Cloudflare workers this weekend so we’ll see how that goes.

[CommanderData]

Azure's support has also been fantastic. Depending on priority of ticket, with an enterprise account things get picked up sometimes minutes after raising them.

Their AKS offering was a crap show during the first year of general release and I opened countless tickets and they were snappy at the response times which is interesting seeing at the scale they operate.

Judging by all the comments GCP seems like one to avoid? Which is a shame because I had a desire to train multi cloud. If they treat their support like the rest of their products then I'll advocate a different IaaS where I'm able to.

[faizshah]

I think most of the comments in this thread are probably about the lower support levels for GCP. I personally have never used enterprise support for GCP. For the lower support levels AWS is miles better than GCP. Not sure about the enterprise support levels. For the hobbyist/early stage, AWS support is the top pick for sure.

I read in a much older thread that GCP’s TAM and enterprise support is pretty good:

> Hey, thanks for all that you’ve done. My experience with GCP has been an incredibly positive one. GCP documentation has always seemed fantastic. Our TAMs were very responsive.

> GCP support has by far been the best support experience. I have to say that the initial days it seemed to suck. The UI was some 90s google group clone which wasn’t even accessible through the GCP console, it was its own separate site which I always found amusing. But over time, the UI and quality of support became more streamlined and predictable, and I consider it one of the best SaaS support experiences today.

> One particular incident I’ll never forget is a support person arguing with me why network tags based firewalls are better overall for security than service accounts based firewalls. I expected to have a very cut and dry exchange but the support engineer actually did convince me that tags are superior to using service accounts. I did not ever expect to have had such a discussion over enterprise support tickets.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26898556

[brianwawok]

I’ve been very happy with the support overall. Met some solid dudes. And I’m pretty cheap on the spend chart,

[genmud]

I would smash my head in a door before being reliant on google and their (lack of) support for any business critical services. It's fine as a secondary, but my god would it make me really nervous if that was the primary cloud platform.

[TX81Z]

I was happy with Azure but just got a bill with “other” charges for $1k on what is a basic VM used solely as a db replica.

[Amasuriel]

For what it’s worth there is a tabular view that has more item detail. Things like marketplace subscriptions can often appear as Other in the graph.

I’m pretty happy with azure. I’ve not used GCP but vs AWS I find permission management a lot nicer. I have yet to have a billing surprise that didn’t come down to me not reading closely enough.

What I don’t like is they sometimes lock private links (aka the ability to not have a service publically routable, only accessible on a vnet) behind premium SKUs, looking at you service bus.

[richieartoul]

Interzone bandwidth maybe? They used to not charge for that, but they started doing so recently

[Shorn]

Do you have any links to more info about this? I don't use Azure, so I'm not sure where I would look for something like this.

I've been aware of some enterprise projects that are running on Azure, where from the description of how their architecture worked, I couldn't understand how they weren't drowning in network cost. It makes a bit more sense now if I know that Azure weren't charging people for some types of network bandwidth.

[elankart]

This is certainly a troll post. I use all three cloud providers. GCP is the worst of all, just try their simple text to speech UI. It doesn’t work most of the times.

Don’t even get me started on a deployment story for GCP their deployment manager is deprecated and redirect you to use terraform.

I hate to swallow it but Azure was more usable and straightforward.

[dimgl]

> Azure was more usable and straightforward.

There is no world where Azure is more usable and straightforward. Just my two cents.

[VirusNewbie]

Azure has had multiple global outages for many services. I believe you can look at overall stability and see it's not in the same league as GCP and AWS.

[predictabl3]

Lol can you use ed25519 keys with Azure yet? I doubt it. It was and will continue to be a joke because MS can't pay or promote people that care before they leave.

[bushbaba]

Azure’s target customer group is non-tech enterprise. The type of group who generally buys solutions over builds them in house. Where needing ed25519 keys is not a common ask

[_ktx2]

Azure is like if a raging tire fire had a baby with Windows UI

[Amasuriel]

Do a lot of people really use the UI of any of the cloud services? Most people want managed infra, which means at least cli scripts if not terraform.

Not arguing the Azure UI is amazing, but it’s low on my list of concerns personally for cloud services.

[wodenokoto]

Yes. Most of our infra is setup using the Azure portal. MS customer satisfaction engineers constantly recommend we set up things using the portal.

AZ CLI is also terrible for interacting with Azure.

[bushbaba]

UI for r&d, terraform for long term ops

[Demmme]

And.i don't?

I have over 10 years of experience across all cloud providers and you just assume I'm a troll?

That's not a way to have a discussion in good faith...

[bushbaba]

Gcp used to have a big network offering lead. But not anymore. AWS has a more reliable network (hello no global outages) and there’s not the same performance gap since AWS and azure’s investments in private fiber connectivity panned out.

[fnordpiglet]

You lost me at UI. But I’m one who believes if you don’t write your software defined infrastructure as software, you’ll regret life pretty soon.

[Waterluvian]

A UI for cloud services is super helpful to have when exploring, troubleshooting, and noodling around. But yeah, massive red flag if anyone’s using it to deploy production services.

[brianwawok]

I deploy my sql with Ui cuz ugh… I do it once per year max, and it’s docker everywhere else.

[paulgb]

That’s a pretty myopic view of what a UI can be used for. I’m all in on IAC but still like having a UI to click around to observe state rather than memorize a bunch of CLI commands.

[elguyosupremo]

And even if I can get what I need via CLI it's nice that higher level people in the org can click around and get what they need without having to bother me to retrieve the data for them.

[Demmme]

We have 99% IaC.

I still don't mind upgrading a k8s cluster on the UI, monitoring it's healthy and than patching the tf code for the newest minor version.

[davidgerard]

flagged as obvious spam

[Demmme]

Spam from you?

[HatchedLake721]

UI in the world of terraform and pulumi where some companies even block UI access in prod?

[kccqzy]

Blocking UI access in prod is fine, but developers should be able to experiment rapidly and in an agile manner in dev environments. If you forcibly block UI access in those cases, developers simply do less exploration and stick to tried-and-true solutions, even when those solutions no longer suit the problem at hand.

[throwaway2990]

In AWS you can link 2 accounts for single billing and apply a budget to the account. Nice having a dev R&D account not attached to production.

[Amasuriel]

Azure has this too, you can have what they somewhat confusingly call subscriptions, which are logical units with their own billing, limits and permissions inside and organizations account.

[throwaway2990]

Ah yes I forgot about that. Don’t use azure much these days but we used to use that for dev vs production.