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by dagmx 1133 days ago
I just don’t think API matters if the capabilities are there. Look at Linux gaming, OpenGL was up to date and prevalent, but the majority of games are actually translating DirectX to Vulkan and using WINE.

Most games are using off the shelf engines that support Metal anyway, so I think api would only matter for the small subset of games using custom engines.

Regarding your point of the US, I should clarify that I didn’t mean by market share, though I suppose that’s also true in the US. I meant by profit.

According to the WSJ , Apple makes more from gaming than Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft and Activision combined worldwide.

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>Look at Linux gaming

Linux is just non existent from a mainstream audience perspective, let alone the gaming market.

>Most games are using off the shelf engines that support Metal anyway, so I think api would only matter for the small subset of games using custom engines.

Today yes, it's easy to make a Mac game wit UE or Unity. But back 15-20 years ago?

BTW I'm not arguing API is the main reason Mac failed as a gaming platform. Just that it cannot be ignored.

>According to the WSJ , Apple makes more from gaming than Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft and Activision combined worldwide.

Don't me wrong, Apple is huge, but that's incorrect. Sony still makes more money than Apple.

https://www.gizmochina.com/2022/06/01/apple-rank-3rd-gaming-...

Maybe the figure you're thinking about is that iOS enabled the most consumer spending? (not the actual money Apple mades from gaming)

I’m referencing this

https://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-doesnt-make-videogames-bu...

(Non paywalled summary)

https://www.nme.com/en_au/news/gaming-news/apple-profited-mo...

Of course the WSJ may be wrong, but it’s based off of profit whereas your link seems to be revenue. Which would enable both to be true I think.

Regarding the other point of 15-20 years ago, OpenGL only started stagnating on the Mac with 4.1 in 2010. Prior to that gaming was still really missing on a Mac.

I’m also in agreement that it can’t be ignored. I just think it’s overstated.

But in general I think we’re saying the same things, and debating the nuances.