[Sakos]

They literally provide sources for those claims. I have no idea how you can say with a straight face that they're dishonest. They're very clear and transparent about how their plans are limited.

It's also extremely easy to check what your usage is for the current month and get a monthly overview. If you happen to use more than the 200 searches for the standard plan, they charge 1.5 cents per search. If you blow past it and end up using another 500 searches, which matches the $10 plan, you're still only paying $12.5.

They also provide soft and hard limits to how many searches you can use to avoid unexpected charges.

Like, I honestly don't know what else you expect them to do.

edit: Also, for reference, as a heavy user who basically lives in their search engine, my total searches for previous months are: 786, 782, 610, 519, 717.

[stavros]

The GP didn't say they're lying about the number, the claim was that the number isn't representative of the amount of Google searches Kagi users are likely to perform.

[freediver]

Kagi pricing page does not talk about Kagi users but Internet users, which Kagi is trying to attract with the $5 plan.

Almost all of current Kagi users are in the other 1% category, but that doesn’t change the fact that vast majority of internet users search 2-3 times a day and that Kagi would like to attract them with this plan.

[oh_sigh]

But it does change the fact that 6 searches/day will probably not be adequate for the average kagi user, which they imply.

[freediver]

That is not implied anywhere?

The copy clears says internet users and provides concrete sources for the claim. How would you word it differently?

[cmeacham98]

The obvious implication of putting that on a pricing page is that the average internet user accurately represents the average Kagi user.

I have no idea if that's true or not, but if it isn't, then there isn't really a way to "word it differently" - including the information at all is misleading.

[brookst]

I’m trying to follow the complaint but not getting it.

Are you saying that the average Kagi user, who is an internet power user doing far more than 4 searches a day, is going to be misled into believing they are an average internet user and that they really only do 4 searches a day?

[freediver]

I addressed it here not to repeat again https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35810191

[90-00-09]

Why is it not representative? I was surprised by this recent Kagi pricing change but after reviewing my search stats I realized that their estimation is pretty on point.

[rfrey]

The GP quote was "But what I really didn't like is how dishonest they are."