[fredestine]

since when russia was an enemy of europe? historically they are the one who beat the nazis. if you refer to 2014 it is europe and us that also pushed russia to come into ukraine.

everything would have been avoidable if we gave putin some warranty of not meddling with ukraine, putting corrupt people in a non elected government. and Im not saying that what is happening know is right. A russian invasion of ukraine is wrong. but that was definitely something USA actions in Ukraine expected long before 2014

[ChuckNorris89]

>since when russia was an enemy of europe?

Ask the Eastern European countries who've had to suffer 50 years of communist atrocities thanks to WW2 invasion of their countries by Russia and the USSR.

[fredestine]

USSR not russia. it collapsed. are you still upset about ottoman empire? nazi germany? the first world war aftermath should have taught us something.

[netsharc]

Ha, you're saying this after you said (not exact words) "Look who beat the Nazis in 1945!"? So which is it, do you want to consider the group of people occupying the land 80 years ago same as the present people, or different?

[fredestine]

America dropped 2 atomic bombs on live civilians and now they fear mongering the world into a new nuclear war. I think this beats everything and every argument for giving them the keys to owning the "peace of the world" but somehow you seem to hate russia more than facts.

[nradov]

America dropped 2 atomic bombs on military targets. The civilians were collateral damage, as always occurs in war. Attacks conducted by Japan, USSR, and other belligerents involved in WW2 also killed large numbers of civilians.

[netsharc]

Come on kid, you're the one arguing with emotions (Bombs on live civilians! Hmm, reminds me of Assad, Putin's friend, dropping phospor bombs) instead of logical facts.

This reply is just a distraction and doesn't refute the fact that you're just a rambling fool who tried to argue both that "heroic Russia beat the Nazis" but "That was the USSR, long collapsed, and not Russia causing suffering in the Warsaw pact countries!'.

[fredestine]

who are you calling kid? you even edited your original comment afterward lol. logical facts are that russian and putin long called for ukraine to be neutral. removing their elected leader and pushing a pro european riot destroyed that neutrality and that was the tipping point of everything else. that people like you developed a generational hate toward a country is not helping with the above facts

[hdjjhhvvhga]

> since when russia was an enemy of europe?

It's hard to give a precise date since Europe was torn by so many wars over centuries, but when it comes to the present situation, I'd say it was the Bolshevik Revolution. European countries were afraid the communist movement spreads everywhere - and in fact it became quite popular in several countries.

Then, after WWII, Russia established their military bases in all of Eastern Europe and after that the Cold War begun. When the Berlin Wall fell, everybody was so happy because we really hoped it's the end of tension between Russia and the West. It didn't last long, though - Putin's speech in Munich in 2007 made it clear he has a completely different vision.

So, to briefly answer your question, for the most part of the last century, actually.