[fredestine]

America dropped 2 atomic bombs on live civilians and now they fear mongering the world into a new nuclear war. I think this beats everything and every argument for giving them the keys to owning the "peace of the world" but somehow you seem to hate russia more than facts.

[nradov]

America dropped 2 atomic bombs on military targets. The civilians were collateral damage, as always occurs in war. Attacks conducted by Japan, USSR, and other belligerents involved in WW2 also killed large numbers of civilians.

[netsharc]

Come on kid, you're the one arguing with emotions (Bombs on live civilians! Hmm, reminds me of Assad, Putin's friend, dropping phospor bombs) instead of logical facts.

This reply is just a distraction and doesn't refute the fact that you're just a rambling fool who tried to argue both that "heroic Russia beat the Nazis" but "That was the USSR, long collapsed, and not Russia causing suffering in the Warsaw pact countries!'.

[fredestine]

who are you calling kid? you even edited your original comment afterward lol. logical facts are that russian and putin long called for ukraine to be neutral. removing their elected leader and pushing a pro european riot destroyed that neutrality and that was the tipping point of everything else. that people like you developed a generational hate toward a country is not helping with the above facts

[netsharc]

I'm calling you kid, kid. So what if I edited my comment, to emphasize you still haven't acknowledged your incoherence: So which is it, do you want to consider the group of people occupying the land 80 years ago same as the present people, or different? Russia beat Nazis in the 1940's = so Russia is hero. USSR was a brutal regime = USSR collapsed, Russia today doesn't have anything to do with USSR. But Russia today should still get credit for USSR beating the Nazis!

BTW I don't hate Russia the country, I have friends who are stuck there and don't know what tomorrow may bring (including a couple who might both be called to war (apparently being a woman might not save you from mobilization if you're a doctor), and they have 2 young kids), but I hate the corrupt idiot currently holding it hostage...

Yeah, your style of argument is familiar to me, the style of the feeble-minded and people who are emotional and whose knowledge aren't full knowledge but just gathered from random blogs, tweets, and whatever propaganda crap you're reading. Incoherent, and when people point it out, bring out other topics in hopes that they get distracted and engage the new topic instead. When challenged, you'd rather not discover to see whether the opponent is right, but you'd rather protect your own ego and convince yourself that they're the deluded ones, and you're the one who knows the truth. "I can't acknowledge that, to acknowledge that would mean admitting I was an idiot yesterday, and I'm not an diot!"

Sorry dang, and HN, for engaging the trolls...

[fredestine]

you the troll changing original comment to make me look like im incoherent. this is disingenuous theres nothing more to say.

[spaniard89277]

He doesn't make you look incoherent. You wrote your own comments. You want to credit Russia for beating nazis while not crediting them with atrocities because it was the USSR.

Can't go much more incoherent than that.

[fredestine]

there is coherence. his original comment was spitting hate at russia in a way that the country was pure evil my reply merely mentionned they defeated nazi germany. then he edited the comment. I credit the fact that history is complex and that all countries are bad and good.