[phibz]

I can't see how this wouldn't get caught in the US without significantly more criminal activity on the person's part. If you're salaried then they're going to need an I9, meaning you need a tax ID number. So then are you going to open a bank account in this stolen identity's name or are you going to try and setup direct deposit without a name or just a routing number/account ID and hope tye name mismatch isnt caught?

What about the IRS and employment tax your employer pays going to the wrong tax ID that should be reported to you?

I'm sure in some situations it'd work (1099, physical paycheck, lax process), but it seems like you're just setting yourself up to have to break more laws.

You'd be better off just using your own name and keeping a low profile online.

At least then you'd probably only be in violation of your employment contract.

It's stuff like this that's going to make providing recent bank statements and tax records a more common requirement for hire. :-(

[lovich]

Is it illegal to have multiple employers? I should inform all of the members of the board of every company that I've worked for that they should tender their resignation at their other companies.

[Wowfunhappy]

No, which is why GP says:

> You'd be better off just using your own name and keeping a low profile online. At least then you'd probably only be in violation of your employment contract.

Ie, the crime being discussed isn’t having multiple jobs, but taking one job under a fake identity.

[quelltext]

I think the original start of this comment thread was about taking on an extra job and then wiggling your way out of it being discovered by saying it was deepfakes, then another poster saying they cannot imagine having several jobs and winging them. Whether that was assumed to be occurring under fake identities wasn't clear.

So, yeah, I'd say maintaining fake identities is hard no matter what and illegal.

But I think even before that folks are wondering how people can maintain several jobs at the same time, regardless of fake identity or not.

[lovich]

I interpreted the comment I was replying to as someone who felt that running multiple jobs was illegal. I have seen coworkers think that before just based on a a manager telling them it was illegal to work for multiple companies at the same time.

[phibz]

You misinterpreted what I said.

Faking your identity in the US for a job is breaking several laws. Explaining this behavior by saying "I was deep faked" probably won't satisfy law enforcement or the IRS.

Taking multiple jobs under your legal identity isn't in and of itself illegal. But you may be in violation of your employment contract. Meaning it's probably, depends on local laws, not illegal but gives cause to terminate you and possibly be sued.

[GekkePrutser]

Illegal no. But it's usually in an employment contract that the employer must approve of any other employment.

For board members it's kinda part of their job but taking on 2 full time IT jobs is not going to be appreciated obviously.

[lovich]

> employment contract

I’m in the US. Ain’t got no contract for shit because companies don’t want to be committed to a deal with workers. The closest I’ve gotten to a contract is “don’t slander us and you can have this severance”

[phibz]

> I’m in the US. Ain’t got no contract for shit because companies don’t want to be committed to a deal with workers.

Your offer letter usually functions as an employment contract. The thing that spells out your start on a specific date, and we will pay you some amount in some given manner.

It really depends on your local labor laws, which vay from state to state.

[galangalalgol]

Employers in yhe US love contracts. They say things like "all your ideas are ours even if you work on them off ours" and "you can't work anywhere else, after us unless its in retail or food service, because we don't want to compete". That holds up in the states faangs are moving to, to reduce COL.

[lovich]

And my state ignores that and restricts those covenants to default settings or tosses them if the companies go too, far. Also lol at the faangs moving to. They are expanding not moving.

They didn’t leave California, mass, or New York which have major provisions protecting workers, and they chose to build in those locations before you saw them seeking out smaller cities and states

[galangalalgol]

well yeah, you don't put your headquarters or leadership roles in Rwanda or Texas, you start with tech support, and slowly migrate anyone who knows what an integral is to the low COL areas. I apologize to Rwanda for the comparison.

[stevenjgarner]

and what about independent contractors? I have been a technology contractor since the 1970's and I have never had a contract with any of my customers.

[phibz]

You verbally agreed on contract pay rate, payment frequency, schedule, assignment of works, how sensitive information will be handled, whether or not you can subcontract a portion of the work, who provides materials and work accommodations, and a bunch of other important details?

All without a written agreement? I'm surprised you could get people to work with you.

[oyebenny]

True

[walrus01]

There is a thriving ecosystem of scams that uses United States residents as money mules, with the ability to open bank accounts, for ACH deposit, social security numbers, etc.

You might be significantly underestimating the number of extremely gullible people out there.

[phibz]

The fact that stealing people's identity is relatively easy, and a major problem is tangential to my statement:

taking a job under someone else's identity is illegal in the US and claiming you were deep faked if caught isn't likely to work.

[mod]

> more criminal activity

What part is the current criminal activity?

[phibz]

Taking a job in the US under someone else's name and social security number.