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by OrvalWintermute 1529 days ago
The Western Ukrainians (AFU), who are fighting vs the Eastern Ukrainians (LPR & DPR), and the Russian Army (Moscow Regime) all speak Russian, and have similar radio equipment. With the exception of the new Western new radio gear that the Western Ukrainians CIA-supported units have fielded, they are all using similar stuff. Given they all speak Russian with minimal difference, it is premature to say which force is doing what where in the middle of a contested warzone.
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polotics 1529 days ago
Please be very careful with the trolling. In a past life I had contact with teams returning from Kossovo having handled mass graves there, identifying corpses, getting information to investigators, these ones then talking with families, piecing through what exactly happened. Some of the affected persons, still alive 30 years on, with only the memory of their raped 10 years old daughter, are at it and anyone associated with the deeds, even if the perpetrators have long ago been peeled, are still after associates, even if only just in propaganda associates.
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OrvalWintermute 1528 days ago
> Please be very careful with the trolling

This is not trolling. Maybe you shouldn't be so flippant about making accusations like that.

> In a past life I had contact with teams returning from Kossovo having handled mass graves there, identifying corpses, getting information to investigators, these ones then talking with families, piecing through what exactly happened. Some of the affected persons, still alive 30 years on, with only the memory of their raped 10 years old daughter, are at it and anyone associated with the deeds, even if the perpetrators have long ago been peeled, are still after associates, even if only just in propaganda associates.

I too, did "peace enforcement" in the Balkans as a uniformed member of the US military in a NATO unit.

Who were the allies of NATO in executing the peace enforcement? Russians. How quickly people forget this, in the "Rah Rah Rah EvilRussianz" media blitz.

However, you are comparing genocidal conflicts in the Balkans, with a war that is essentially a defensive move by the Russians to prevent encroachment into their sphere of influence & sphere of control.

Wars are brutal, horrible things.

NATO should not be in the business of fomenting revolutions, "Color Revolutions", Regional destabilization, or encroaching on regional powers turf where we have no clear national interest. And no, we hate Putin is not a National Interest. NATO has been supporting the Western Ukrainians in Kiev, and assisting the coup, in attacking the Eastern Ukrainians for a number of years now. We should not be in that business.

We would not tolerate Mexico or Canada becoming a Chinese military base, any more than we did missiles in Cuba [1]

[1] https://history.state.gov/milestones/1961-1968/cuban-missile...

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polotics 1528 days ago
Countries only have "sphere of influence and control" as much as they are able to influence and control. The invasion demonstrated both lack of influence, and lack of control. No NATO missiles were being deployed in Kharkiv that I know, so this was not Cuba. Clearly now my Kharkiv friends want nothing but... If we're lucky we survive the escalation, I call it 50/50 at this point, got the iodine.
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OrvalWintermute 1528 days ago
> No NATO missiles were being deployed in Kharkiv that I know, so this was not Cuba

You must not be counting the thousands of TOW, Stinger, Javelin, and Switchblade Drone/Missiles that NATO is sending to Ukraine.

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polotics 1528 days ago
Sorry I meant proper missiles, like in Cuba, eg. R-12 R-14 (SS-4, SS-5)
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OrvalWintermute 1528 days ago
TOW, Stinger, Javelin, and Switchblade Drone/Missiles are all capable of taking out large commercial airplanes.

TOW 2 are specifically designed to take out buildings in the Bunker Buster variants. Simultaneous release of multiple TOW2s could be used to defeat large industrial buildings, or skyscrapers.

Slovakia has sent an S300 to Ukraine, and those are pretty hefty sized missiles too.

Are you drawing the limit on short range tactical missiles, intermediate range tactical missiles, Cruise Missiles, ICBMs, or Nuclear ICBMs, since we have already established NATO is supplying a number of missile types to Eastern Ukraine?

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