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by guywhocodes 1614 days ago
But we have a similar noise in COVID death and injury as we have incentivized hospitals to register everything and everyone as COVID related. And I believe we all know just about any PCR test can be made positive if you use enough cycles.

Sorry but I can't distrust VAERS and then trust the COVID injection complication data added by the same people but now with financial incentives.
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rsfern 1614 days ago
You shouldn’t distrust VAERS per se, but it’s purpose is not risk assessment. It’s purpose is surfacing rare side effects for further study.

You don’t have to trust the drug co’s for that, we also have vaccine safety datalink system; so far the only notable side effect of the mRNA vaccines has been the myocarditis in younger people.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34477809/

Also your point about PCR testing is not accurate.

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guywhocodes 1614 days ago
> Also your point about PCR testing is not accurate.

Source on that? Because all graphs I've seen show impossible to miss fluorescence around 35 cycles and up.

AFAICT VSD only does specific research at their own behest and currently don't have a section on COVID-19 vaccines.

Btw your link is dead.

I had pericarditis and some immediate reaction, my cardiologist thinks it was partially intravenously applied. Looking at the data on severe reactions from where I live I've been able to obviously tell that CDC must have used incredible criteria for their numbers. At least initially, I stopped caring when it eventually became clear to me that we do not really want to know how many are harmed.

And from the perspective of everyone involved I understand it, I too want this to be over, I too want this to be a safe magic bullet. But seems to me somewhere between 1:1000-10000 have significant heart issues from the Pfizer vaccine, but when we were rolling it out the numbers were claimed to be 1 in 230M.

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rsfern 1613 days ago
The link isn’t dead for me, but I guess there’s no abstract on pubmed, sorry. This is the DOI link: https://DOI.org/10.1001/jama.2021.14808

It’s an editorial summarizing the first VSD report on Covid vaccine side effect research that I was describing (https://DOI.org/10.1001/jama.2021.15072)

I’m not going to argue that the US seemed to take longer and have worse communication about the myo/pericarditis issue than some other countries, but these things are being followed up on. The absolute timing I think is hard to discuss with a definite time frame

Here are some resources on PCR amplification:

- https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-critical-thinking...

- https://www.thermofisher.com/us/en/home/life-science/cloning...

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