[Hamuko]

I doubt many people don't like the Magic Keyboard because it's wireless, but rather because it has a different key feel. Although I have an A1243 at home and had a Magic Keyboard at the office and didn't feel like there was much of a difference between the two. If my A1243 failed for some reason, I'd probably just get one of those (since buying a mechanical keyboard with a Mac layout is impossible).

[dubya]

I have an A1243 at home and a Magic Keyboard 2 at work. The difference in feel doesn't bother me, but the fn in the left corner gets me every time. Caps lock is mapped to control on both, but apparently I use that other control key when switching browser tabs.

[Hamuko]

So you have the short version of the Magic Keyboard right? Because the full-sized Magic Keyboard should have the Function key in its rightful place.

[dubya]

Yes, the short version. I didn't realize there was a full-size version or I'm sure I would have picked that when my Mac was replaced.

[throw-away_42]

I've had a Matias Laptop Pro for Mac for years and I've been super-happy with it. Mechanical but very quiet. So it wasn't impossible for me, but you might have other criteria that would make it so.

[Hamuko]

I don't consider 60%ers real keyboards. Also, Matias' tendency to shorten the Option key on their mechanical keyboards annoys me.

I think the Laptop Pro might also only be available with an US layout.

[spike021]

>since buying a mechanical keyboard with a Mac layout is impossible

Recently bought a Keychron K2. First mechanical keyboard ever (except the older keyboards that came with computers in the 90's/early 00's).

It's pretty great. Bluetooth and wired modes. Has keycaps for Command and Option. Has the media key icons on the function keys.

It also has a switch so you can quickly set it for Windows (and it comes with keycaps for that as well).

[citrusybread]

I can highly recommend ... not buying the DAS keyboard with mac layout.

I have one I got gently used from a coworker, who special ordered it... it's got a sticky spacebar that will random lock up and need to be lubricated; the keys are just printed on ABS so they're already wearing out and they look ugly as sin (plus they get so grimy so quickly).

the only pro on this thing is the volume wheel / media keys, and the fact that the mac will recognize it and follow the "correct" behaviour. had tons of problems with previous keyboards since mac osx doesn't seem to have the same level of customization as eg kde.

they're also advertised as having cherry keys, but they're really no-names -- not even Kalih, Outemu, or Gateron (who at this point are as reliable or better than cherry).

Hard pass. My coolermaster keyboard ended up being a lot better. not holding my breath that apple gets its shit together and adopts a better keyboard layout. did wish someone made a mechanical that maybe used a dip switch or something easy to switch between layouts.

[Hamuko]

There actually isn't a Das keyboard with a Mac layout for there are no mechanical keyboards with a Mac layout on sale, period. Trust me, I've looked.

So no worries, I'll just buy a Magic Keyboard if mine breaks. Or maybe I'll buy the Matias clone of the A1243.

[semanticist]

Here's one with a UK Mac layout: https://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard/uk-va109mac-pbt-backlit-...

I'm currently dithering between buying that or the Das as my own A1243 is slowly dying, but at least that one looks like all the buttons are in the right place.

[Hamuko]

That's not a Mac layout. Function key is in the wrong place (it should replace the Insert key) and it's missing an Eject key.

I don't know why people find it so hard to believe when I say that there are no mechanical keyboards with a Mac layout. There just simply aren't. The best is the Matias Tactile Pro and even that has slight shortcomings (short Option and Eject button replaces F19). Pretty much everything else is just the manufacturer's generic PC keyboard with Mac-specific keycaps.

This one is exactly that: a generic mechanical keyboard with Mac-specific keycaps. Just look at the non-Mac variant: https://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard/uk-va109m-sakura-pbt-bac... It's exactly the same layout.

[Veen]

> I don't know why people find it so hard to believe when I say that there are no mechanical keyboards with a Mac layout

Probably because they have a looser definition of Mac layout than you. Many people just mean that there's a command and option key and that the media control keys are in the right place.

[suchire]

This isn’t a Mac layout? https://www.daskeyboard.com/daskeyboard-4-professional-for-m...

[robertoandred]

It says "Backspace" instead of Delete. Heresy.

[Hamuko]

It's not. The Function key is in the wrong place, the Eject button is in the wrong place and it's removed the F14 and F15 in favour of brightness keys(?).