[citrusybread]

I can highly recommend ... not buying the DAS keyboard with mac layout.

I have one I got gently used from a coworker, who special ordered it... it's got a sticky spacebar that will random lock up and need to be lubricated; the keys are just printed on ABS so they're already wearing out and they look ugly as sin (plus they get so grimy so quickly).

the only pro on this thing is the volume wheel / media keys, and the fact that the mac will recognize it and follow the "correct" behaviour. had tons of problems with previous keyboards since mac osx doesn't seem to have the same level of customization as eg kde.

they're also advertised as having cherry keys, but they're really no-names -- not even Kalih, Outemu, or Gateron (who at this point are as reliable or better than cherry).

Hard pass. My coolermaster keyboard ended up being a lot better. not holding my breath that apple gets its shit together and adopts a better keyboard layout. did wish someone made a mechanical that maybe used a dip switch or something easy to switch between layouts.

[Hamuko]

There actually isn't a Das keyboard with a Mac layout for there are no mechanical keyboards with a Mac layout on sale, period. Trust me, I've looked.

So no worries, I'll just buy a Magic Keyboard if mine breaks. Or maybe I'll buy the Matias clone of the A1243.

[semanticist]

Here's one with a UK Mac layout: https://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard/uk-va109mac-pbt-backlit-...

I'm currently dithering between buying that or the Das as my own A1243 is slowly dying, but at least that one looks like all the buttons are in the right place.

[Hamuko]

That's not a Mac layout. Function key is in the wrong place (it should replace the Insert key) and it's missing an Eject key.

I don't know why people find it so hard to believe when I say that there are no mechanical keyboards with a Mac layout. There just simply aren't. The best is the Matias Tactile Pro and even that has slight shortcomings (short Option and Eject button replaces F19). Pretty much everything else is just the manufacturer's generic PC keyboard with Mac-specific keycaps.

This one is exactly that: a generic mechanical keyboard with Mac-specific keycaps. Just look at the non-Mac variant: https://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard/uk-va109m-sakura-pbt-bac... It's exactly the same layout.

[Veen]

> I don't know why people find it so hard to believe when I say that there are no mechanical keyboards with a Mac layout

Probably because they have a looser definition of Mac layout than you. Many people just mean that there's a command and option key and that the media control keys are in the right place.

[suchire]

This isn’t a Mac layout? https://www.daskeyboard.com/daskeyboard-4-professional-for-m...

[robertoandred]

It says "Backspace" instead of Delete. Heresy.

[Hamuko]

It's not. The Function key is in the wrong place, the Eject button is in the wrong place and it's removed the F14 and F15 in favour of brightness keys(?).