[throw-away_42]

I've had a Matias Laptop Pro for Mac for years and I've been super-happy with it. Mechanical but very quiet. So it wasn't impossible for me, but you might have other criteria that would make it so.

[Hamuko]

I don't consider 60%ers real keyboards. Also, Matias' tendency to shorten the Option key on their mechanical keyboards annoys me.

I think the Laptop Pro might also only be available with an US layout.