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by yellowapple 2310 days ago
> Common Lisp has no eco-system to speak of for machine learning,

https://www.cliki.net/Machine%20Learning

> web development,

https://www.cliki.net/Web

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viaweb

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reddit#Technology_and_design (though it admittedly got rewritten into Python)

> command-line utilities,

https://github.com/TeMPOraL/hju, among, like, hundreds of other examples

> games programming,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Oriented_Assembly_Lisp

https://github.com/shirakumo/trial

http://xelf.me/

https://borodust.org/projects/trivial-gamekit/getting-starte...

> mobile development,

https://wukix.com/mocl

http://kriyative.github.io/2011/03/26/ecl-for-ios-updated/

https://common-lisp.net/project/ecl/posts/Lisp-ECL-and-QML-Q...

> GUI programming,

https://common-lisp.net/project/mcclim/

https://www.cliki.net/GUI

> embedded development

https://cliki.net/embedded

http://www.ulisp.com/ (not technically Common Lisp per se AFAICT, but seems to have very similar semantics)

> Building common lisp is a pain, because packaging/ASDF is terrible and you don't easily get a nice and small statically linked executable out either.

https://www.xach.com/lisp/buildapp/

http://www.sbcl.org/manual/#index-save_002dlisp_002dand_002d...

https://ccl.clozure.com/manual/chapter4.9.html

1 comments

If you think spamming random links to old toy/dead/in-house projects you found on Cliki and that contained words like "machine learning", "Games" or "GUI" (mcclim – really?[]) constructs an effective rebuttal to "no ecosystem to speak of", I'm not sure I know what to say. But I'll go through your list in more detail if you want me to.

[] For the record CLIM had interesting ideas, but last I looked, calling McCLIM's implementation of them a toy would be charitable.

The claim was "no eco-system to speak of". There is clearly an ecosystem to speak of. It might not be a healthy ecosystem, and we might speak of it poorly, but it exists nonetheless, and in fact exists in a greater capacity across that whole range of categories than what a lot of other "popular" languages can claim.

"Machine learning" is a perfect example of how out-of-touch that claim is considering that Lisp was the language for AI research until very very recently.

> mcclim – really?

I guess you didn't see the link right below it with the dozens of other bindings to other popular GUI toolkits.