[patrec]

If you think spamming random links to old toy/dead/in-house projects you found on Cliki and that contained words like "machine learning", "Games" or "GUI" (mcclim – really?[]) constructs an effective rebuttal to "no ecosystem to speak of", I'm not sure I know what to say. But I'll go through your list in more detail if you want me to.

[] For the record CLIM had interesting ideas, but last I looked, calling McCLIM's implementation of them a toy would be charitable.

[yellowapple]

The claim was "no eco-system to speak of". There is clearly an ecosystem to speak of. It might not be a healthy ecosystem, and we might speak of it poorly, but it exists nonetheless, and in fact exists in a greater capacity across that whole range of categories than what a lot of other "popular" languages can claim.

"Machine learning" is a perfect example of how out-of-touch that claim is considering that Lisp was the language for AI research until very very recently.

> mcclim – really?

I guess you didn't see the link right below it with the dozens of other bindings to other popular GUI toolkits.