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The claim was "no eco-system to speak of". There is clearly an ecosystem to speak of. It might not be a healthy ecosystem, and we might speak of it poorly, but it exists nonetheless, and in fact exists in a greater capacity across that whole range of categories than what a lot of other "popular" languages can claim.

"Machine learning" is a perfect example of how out-of-touch that claim is considering that Lisp was the language for AI research until very very recently.

> mcclim – really?

I guess you didn't see the link right below it with the dozens of other bindings to other popular GUI toolkits.