Wow, they (Google) really keep everything.. They've still got my trip to Europe from 5 years ago on there, not sure how that's useful to them at this point haha.
>> Wow, they (Google) really keep everything.. They've still got my trip to Europe from 5 years ago on there, not sure how that's useful to them at this point haha.
> They know you've traveled to Europe, they know all the places you went and how long you were in each one. How is that not useful?
But how is deriving those facts from 5 year old location data actually useful to them? AFAIK, they don't try to drive "engagement" by inducing nostalgia with push notifications [1]. I don't really see the use of old data like that for ad-targeting beyond a coarse "travels internationally"-type categories that don't really require keeping the data around.
[1] Remember when you were in Europe? Wasn't it fun? We were there too, following you. Please, please log on now to see what we tracked!
> I don't really see the use of old data like that for ad-targeting
Ad-targeting is not the only use Google has for data. Google's core view of the world is that useful signals can be extracted from data; the more data you gather, the more useful signal you can extract in the future, even if we don't currently know how to find it. In short, gather all the data, and apply machine learning to it until it produces useful (monetizable) results[1].
Maybe Google will find ways to use this data for advertising, or maybe it has an obvious use in some future project that we won't understand for decades. The point is that we don't currently know all of the uses for data, but Google is betting that those uses will eventually be discovered.
The longer the data exists and the larger the database becomes, it's value increases. Higher value means increases potential profit for a hacker. (or being sold in the future if financial stability fails)
The problem with letting Google have this data is the same bet that Google is making: we don't know all of the ways data can be used, but it's likely that many innovative uses will discovered in the future. Unfortunately, while Google is probably only considering the subset of uses that are useful for business, the full set of uses that will be discovered will inevitably contain uses that are very dangerous to some people. An obvious example is the recent attempt to determine sexual orientation from portraits[2]. Does data about where you went 5 years ago reveal something important about you when combined with the many other features Google knows about you in a big deep learning model?
[1] If the underlying assumptions are true and if it will necessarily produce useful (monetizable) results are open questions.
Did they go on a long distance vacation every year? They're probably a good target for travel ads. They're probably also in a higher income bracket then someone who's only going on local trips.
They know you're wealthy enough to travel to Europe. They know you might buy airplane tickets. They can show you ads for other international destinations.
If nothing else, they can sell ads against you for "Category: Travelled to X place within the last Y years".
Thought experiment: your phone could know you liked a particular tourist spot because you spent a lot of time there, and later on when you upload pictures from your DSLR to Google Photos, the system will notice that there are a lot of photos that are timestamped within the time range when you were at that tourist spot.
And data mining can tell that people who like that tourist spot A in country X also liked tourist spot B in city G in country Y a lot, so, tourism board of city G/country Y, here's a good target for your ad.
And not just tourist stuff. Data mining might even tell they like a particular brand of, I don't know, yoghurt, so let's sell some of that yoghurt!
Correct - they'll know your entire itinerary (and whoever else you traveled with) because of your hotel booking confirmations, too. Same with whatever events you bought tickets to. :)
From gmail they also have keys to yor website SSL, as majority of SSL cert providers will send those to admin email (form of verification that someone access admin/webmaster account) on file as form of validation (altho there are other options like CNAME in some providers)
They might have a copy of the signed certificate that the CA sent you via e-mail, but they certainly should not have a copy of the private key that goes along with it (unless you did something stupid like let someone else generate the private key for you).
I must disagree.
Spending some time thinking how this info is useful to the end user as opposed to the data watcher / holder. I believe that this data is exponentially less useful for the end user as it is for the persons adversaries.
Cell phone companies for example may have legitimate reasons to keep location data for billing disputes for 60 days or so, but holding that data longer makes it available to all kinds of agencies, law enforcers and those with that kind of access who would abuse that access, marketing groups, divorce lawyers, accident attorneys, all kinds of possible things that are detrimental to the end user.
The data companies profit from sharing this data, and it costs the end user. Whatever benefits one can come up with, I think the scale is obviously tipped in the "more useful against you" than "for you" direction when it comes to long term location storage.
The phone company doesn't hold it for you on your behalf; they don't have some frontend where you can query and see it. Google does hold it on your behalf. It's used for you in Google Maps to surface places you regularly go over places you've never been. This is why "directions to the pizza place" works. Location history is also used to automatically deduce your home, work, or school location, so you can use a command like "navigate to school" with Android Auto, or get traffic alerts along your normal routes, just as examples.