[nikolay]

$650 is cheap?

[alwillis]

For a security product for enterprise data centers, this is cheap.

[nikolay]

I'm talking about absolute price, not relative to competitors. What's so complicated about this device to justify the cost?

[kalleboo]

High development costs (security experts don't come cheap) spread over a small amount of sold devices?

[alexchamberlain]

It may be priced in value, rather than cost.

[jamespo]

Why should yubi price it any cheaper? It will never compete on cost with storing your private keys insecurely.

[tiernano]

Yup. Hsm pcie cards are around $5k, maybe more. The pizza box versions are upwards of 10k... that’s the last price I seen.

[convivialdingo]

Well, certainly the number of keys you can manage is the downside here.

This HSM has limited key storage capabilities to a hundred or so security objects.

The "pizza box vendors" stores hundreds to thousands of keys.

We typically employ key wrapping to reduce HSM key storage requirements, but only in certain situations.