[mahyarm]

I lost a bunch of weight with calorie counting and then gained it back after 2 years. But I'm fine with that. I started losing it again recently and I've already lost about 8lbs. After you do it a few times it gets easier as your skill in it gets better and your body & mind become more resilient to being in weight loss mode.

The way I'm doing it now is so easy (subway, chipotle, trader joes & calorie counting) that I feel fine in being in a yo-yo of a slow gain of 10lbs over a year and then losing 10lbs over a month or two.

It's not a useful attitude to be fatalistic about weight loss.

I track my weight regularly to make sure weight gain doesn't creep up on me.

[bmh_ca]

> It's not a useful attitude to be fatalistic about weight loss.

Nor is it useful to promise people trips to the top of Everest on a hand glider, but that's empirically what most weight loss advice entails.

[mahyarm]

Thats a fatalistic attitude to weight loss advice too. Weight loss advice can be complicated, but calorie counting and eating at subway everyday really does work.

[falcolas]

Counting calories is hard.

https://youtu.be/HGunZpKLb5o

TL;DW: Calculating the actual energy in a day's worth of well labeled foods resulted in a 500 calorie overage.

This doesn't even account for how your body absorbs calories different from every other body, and probably even differently every day.

[mahyarm]

Being perfectionistic about calorie counting is not necessary. It still works. The approximate measure is quite enough. And if you don't have the time to do it, just eating from chains that already do it for you works quite well.

[bmh_ca]

> calorie counting and eating at subway everyday really does work

Is there any evidence of that?

[mahyarm]

Myself and many others? I've been doing it for the past few weeks and I lost a bunch of pounds. A few weeks before that I was eating at chipotle everyday and was getting similar results.

Try not to lose weight eating only 1600 calories a day. It's pretty difficult to do unless your 90lbs and 5 feet tall!

Subway, chipotle and other chains provide calorie counts for their food. Don't add calorie-full condiments to your subway sandwiches (mustard, not mayo) and stay within that limit +/- 100 or 200 calories.

[bmh_ca]

Thank you for taking the time to post the basis of your belief.

The problem with your argument is twofold. First it's anecdotal, not a statistically significant sample with a control group. Second, it's temporally insignificant, therefore does not account for those periods of most significance - years 5+.

I hope you personally do well over the next few years but, based on observations conforming to principles we understand to constitute reliable evidence, such would be an exceedingly rare exception.

[cm2012]

Bariatric surgery is the best answer for most lifelong obese people.

[appleiigs]

Or maybe they should move to a weight-maintenance program after the weight-loss program?

Why is surgery your conclusion when it's not surprising that people revert to their old weight after reverting to their old diets.

I read the abstracts and the studies only have weight-loss programs. Even the weight watchers article (which by the way is not a study) says: "Lifetime Members are only "the most successful” Weight Watchers members who achieve their “goal weight” (usually a BMI of 25) and maintain it for 6 weeks."