The Intercept seems to have a real problem with providing fair coverage of anything related to Israel. The problems of incitement to violence on Facebook result in actualized civilian deaths in Israel.
>UK news organisations are becoming increasingly frustrated by the continuing ban preventing foreign correspondents from crossing into the Gaza Strip, more than two weeks after Israel's military offensive against Hamas began.
>After months of attempting to limit access, the Israel Defence Forces are still refusing to open the Erez crossing they closed on 27 December, when the bombing campaign began, to anything other than humanitarian aid – despite a supreme court ruling ordering the government to allow members of the international press into Gaza.
>David Mannion, the ITV News editor-in-chief, branded the Israeli media ban "disgraceful", while Dominic Wagthorn, the Sky News Middle East correspondent, said the "unprecedented" level of interference was "very frustrating".
Last time I've checked Gaza also borders Egypt, the Egyptians also aren't keen on letting anyone through, and they've have been stepping up since the war in the Sinai started 5 years ago and arms were flowing both in and out of Gaza.
The Egyptians actually fire across the border, flood tunnels with sewage, and without going out on a full on assault do pretty much the same thing the Israelis do but since it's Egypt (almost) no one is reporting on it.
Still controls everything that goes in and out of Gaza. Including essential supplies like medicinea and food. They also reserve the "right" to invade Gaza whenever necessary, while keeping the population locked in. The whole world agrees that it constitutes an occupation.
> Still controls everything that goes in and out of Gaza
Gaza is a part of a separate sovereign state, with which Israel has tense foreign relations and is within its rights to control exports. and they're posting border guards for those exiting it. It's legally no different from inspections that take place at U.S./Mexico border checkpoints.
> They also reserve the "right" to invade Gaza whenever necessary
Source?
> while keeping the population locked in
Source? No country is obligated (except for E.U. member states) to allow the free flow of people without visas. The only thing I've read which might qualify for this claim is naval blockade of the coastline.
> The whole world agrees that it constitutes an occupation
Gaza is being kept separated from the West Bank and the rest of the world by a total blockade, maintained by Israel in violation of the Oslo accords, which Israel signed 20 years ago. Immediately after the signing of those accords (1993) Gaza was closed off with a fence and travel was severely curtailed with an electronic card system. The blockade has only become more severe since then.
Regarding you request for source on the "right to invade Gaza":
> "Israel will continue to control Gaza's coastline and airspace and reserves the right to undertake military operations when necessary. (Art 3.1)." http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/foreignpolicy/peace/mfadocuments/p...
Regarding the Israeli control of Gaza being an occupation:
>In January 2012, the spokesperson for the UN Secretary General stated that under resolutions of the Security Council and the General Assembly, the UN still regards Gaza to be part of the Occupied Palestinian Territory.[15]
Israel does not recognize any separate state as having sovereignty over Gaza.
> It's legally no different from inspections that take place at U.S./Mexico border checkpoints.
Last I checked, the US doesn't assert a right to control Mexico's seacoast or airspace, and impose a blockade of shipments into and out of Mexico that do not come through the US.
So read the article blanking out the word "Israel".
It doesn't matter what country it is.
Or put another way, if you support this, you also (whether you realize it or not) support China, Iran, the UAE, North Korea, etc. etc. etc. doing the same thing. Think you don't? Just wait for the arguments after one of those does something awful.
Cited directly from the submission that you clearly did not read.
Soldiers themselves are posting online calling for the death of Palestinians.
This is very far from the case of uneducated Muslims being whipped into a frenzy, and I say that as someone that adamantly views the Israel-Arab schism as a fight between civilized men and savages. I'm about as pro-Israel as you can get but the conduct of Israelis can get just as disgusting as their Arab detractors.
Read the article, it's all about how Israel is going above and beyond its data-sharing partnership with Facebook to unfairly impose censorship rules for behavior that they themselves are guilty of. Hypocrisy at its finest.
Feel free to read my sources currently at the bottom of this page where Facebook had to admit that their moderation was clearly biaded against Israel as late as in January this year.
No I'm just extremely jaded by seeing uneducated masses get manipulated by awful people.
Being targeted by Israeli extremists for holding them to high standards and expectations is pretty unpleasant, and being targeted by Arab extremists for accepting the existence of the Israeli state is also unpleasant.
I sympathize with both Israeli and Palestinian people, I accept the existence of the Israeli state, and I recognize the need for Palestinians to have political representation. Call me what you want but please don't jump to conclusions or make any hasty decisions.
Thanks. Seems we agree on a lot. I very much appreciate your position about sympathising with both parts as well as the fact that you bring sources to the table.
I might also be a bit biased as around here (both locally and on hn it seems) there is or has been a quite strong anti-Israel bias although at least were I live that seems to have been changing over the last year.
"While the focus here is on Palestinians’ “incitement,” it’s actually very common for Israelis to use Facebook to urge violence against Palestinians, including settlers urging “vengeance” when there is an attack on an Israeli. "
"In 2014, thousands of Israelis used Facebook to post messages 'calling for the murder of Palestinians.'"
"Fair" coverage of Israel would almost overwhelmingly be called anti-Semitic. It's entirely possible that there's two sides to a story and one side is just completely wrong. If any other country in that part of the world acted the same way, they'd be on a huge sanctions list.
Turkey and China, one can also say that no western country would be showing so much restraint to 100,000 rockets being fired into it's civilian population over a decade.
While you can distil the fact that Israel is "wrong" their main offense is their existence, not any single act or policy, pre-1967 there was a "Palestinian Liberation" agenda also that one focused on Israel proper, after 1967 when the current Palestinian territories were captured from Egypt and Jordan it shifted, but overall the end game has never changed.
No one in the west or elsewhere was claiming that Egypt or Jordan were occupying Palestine, no one in the west objected Egypt shelling Gaza pretty much every other night, and no one dragged Jordan to the Hague for Black September, ironically enough the "Black September" terrorist organization which murdered the Israeli athletes during the Munich olympics was named for a terrible event that Israel had nothing to do with, but instead of going to attack Jordanian athletes for the 20,000 Palestinians that the Jordanian army butchered they went after the Israeli delegation.
No ones hands are clean over there. Israel's response to the athletes' murder was not exactly "good world citizen" stuff either. But that's beside the point.
I was thinking more along the lines of stealing US nuclear tech, false-flagging, attacks on US, high-level espionage and "turning" top government officials, negotiating for top posts, etc. Or the whole "mess with us and we'll nuke the world" stance. Behaviour that's unbecoming of such a close ally, and that would be more expected to be coming from North Korea (if they had the resources). Maybe "everyone" does this kind of stuff, but these ones are public knowledge yet bringing them up is usually reacted to very negatively.
>Maybe "everyone" does this kind of stuff, but these ones are public knowledge yet bringing them up is usually reacted to very negatively.
Maybe? are you kidding me? How do you think the UK and France got their Nukes? The UK pretty much stole the designs from the Manhattan project because the US wasn't in a sharing mood (even tho the UK gave them the early and flawed weapon designs), so did the French, (Dutch, Greeks, Italians, and pretty much everyone else at the same time that wanted a bomb).
As for spying goes everyone spies it's one of the supporting pillars of modern politics and diplomacy, the US constantly spies on Israel, Israel spies on the US.
The UK, France, Germany, Turkey, South Korea, Japan and even freakin Australia spy on the US and everyone else.
Espionage isn't a question of will or morality it's a question of resources, and the US spies more than anyone on everyone, so using your argument the US is North Korea to all of NATO and the entire world.
The level of spite you seem to hold towards a single country is simply irrational regardless of how you try to rationalize it, Israel never threatened to nuke the world, I think you are confusing it with some other countries, including a country that pushed for MAD which most of the world seen as the most pretty freaking immoral thing invented and the only reason it worked is because while the soviets were appalled by that idea they had no choice but to comply or risk being on the receiving end of a first strike.