[tjogin]

No, I'm talking about actual scientific evidence published in peer reviewed scientific journals. There are mountains of it available.

Being in a caloric deficit is not starving yourself, it just means that over a period of time, usually a full day, you spent more energy than you consumed, and the difference is taken out of your energy storage, which is mostly adipose tissue. This is how fat loss happens.

[vilmosi]

Oh I get it now, there's a misconception here. A caloric deficit DIET is detrimental to you. But you can still obtain calorie deficit process by simply increasing the output (i.e. exercise). Eating quality food helps too.

[tjogin]

There is nothing detrimental about being on a caloric deficit diet if are overweight. It's not starving yourself, it's not bad for you, it's the ONLY way you can lose fat. Reducing intake is much more efficient than increasing output, as the article we are discussing elaborates on.

[dragonwriter]

> There is nothing detrimental about being on a caloric deficit diet if are overweight.

Yes, there is. Sustained calorie deficit has a number of potential adverse effects. OTOH, if you are overweight, those detrimental effects may be justified by the expected long-term health benefits of weight loss.

[vilmosi]

Yes you do lose weight, I don't disagree. If you do have a weight problem, it might be an option. But I don't think it's not detrimental for you or that it's a viable long term solution.

[jsmthrowaway]

Nope, still wrong. There is nothing detrimental about eating less than you need within reason.

[vilmosi]

Agree to disagree. Starving yourself should never be an option.

[jsmthrowaway]

This isn't "agree to disagree" territory, this is published and peer-reviewed science. You are wrong. There is no disagreement.

[vilmosi]

Fine then, show me. Show me some "science" that show how starving yourself is good for you.

Put up or shut up, this isn't productive.

[tjogin]

You are making the claim that a caloric deficit is detrimental to health (although you choose to call it "starving yourself" for unknown reasons, even though starvation is something completely different), the onus is on you to show evidence for that.