[tjogin]

You are confusing "calorie counting", which is a method of losing weight, with a "caloric deficit" being the number one factor for losing weight, which is a fact.

It doesn't matter if you count calories or not. What matters is that you achieve a caloric deficit. Any method that is applied successfully to achieve weight loss has resulted in a caloric deficit, whether or not that method was calorie counting.

[vilmosi]

Calorie deficit is harmful for you though, there's an imbalance. You tell your body it's starving. As soon as you have an extra calorie to spare, you're body will immediately store it as fat, making your hard work essentially meaningless in the long run.

[unprepare]

having a caloric deficit is literally the ONLY way to lose weight, this is described by the laws of thermodynamics.

If you eat exactly as many calories as you burn, you will never gain nor lose weight. If you consume more calories than you burn you will gain weight.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caloric_deficit

[tjogin]

None of what you just said is correct, not a syllable of it, really. You should read up on the available scientific evidence.

[vilmosi]

What scientific evidence? Let me guess, some blog post from a company that sells said diet? Give me a break.

Starving your body does indeed make you lose weight, that's true. It's just not a healthy way to do it. Nor is it long term. Your body will more than compensate for it as it regains all the weight you lost as soon as you eat like a regular person.

http://healthyenough.net/calorie-counting/ http://breakingmuscle.com/endurance-sports/calorie-restricti...

[tjogin]

No, I'm talking about actual scientific evidence published in peer reviewed scientific journals. There are mountains of it available.

Being in a caloric deficit is not starving yourself, it just means that over a period of time, usually a full day, you spent more energy than you consumed, and the difference is taken out of your energy storage, which is mostly adipose tissue. This is how fat loss happens.

[vilmosi]

Oh I get it now, there's a misconception here. A caloric deficit DIET is detrimental to you. But you can still obtain calorie deficit process by simply increasing the output (i.e. exercise). Eating quality food helps too.

[tjogin]

There is nothing detrimental about being on a caloric deficit diet if are overweight. It's not starving yourself, it's not bad for you, it's the ONLY way you can lose fat. Reducing intake is much more efficient than increasing output, as the article we are discussing elaborates on.

[jsmthrowaway]

Nope, still wrong. There is nothing detrimental about eating less than you need within reason.

[venomsnake]

Let me guess you are female and practice haes? Only there I have heard such delusions.