Can anyone tell me why French institutions are so inept at translating their sites into English. It must be on purpose, a big f-u to non native French speakers.
> It must be on purpose, a big f-u to non native French speakers.
I hate this stupid stereotype that French people don't want to learn/use English because they're too proud to do so. I've heard this countless times.
Truth is English isn't an easy language to master for native French speakers. It's similar for Italians or Spaniards for instance. And conversely, nobody expect americans or brits to be fluent in a foreign language.
As for institutions websites, I agree with you it's a shame they don't offer an English version more systematically. I just checked and it seems "impots.gouv.fr" (tax website) doesn't have an English translation (research and educational institutions always have one though).
I don't know why it is not the case. Maybe there's some truth in what you're saying. Some people may think it's not worth the cost since foreigners willing to live and work there should learn the language eventually. I disagree with this type of nationalistic ideology, but again, it's certainly not unique to France.
In any case, I think things are improving. For instance, more and more universities have English curricula nowadays.
I'm French. I've lived in France, the UK, Sweden and a bunch of other places in Europe.
English is dead easy to learn; people just don't care, it's in the culture. Nobody can speak English back in france. It's pathetic. Often when I go through Paris' airports, I speak english just to see how badly people still speak it, and just how much effort they'll go through to still speak french despite having someone who has shown no sign of speaking your language in front of you.
For some, it's pride. For most, it's lack of education. For all, it's a sad, sad situation. And the degree to which it happens is absolutely unique to France - I have never seen such dislike of foreign languages in any other country - and my full time job is in localization engineering.
I've been in Stockholm for about a year now and I've had trouble finding swedes that do not speak English. The turkish immigrant at the local pizzeria? Even his English is better than a majority of french people's skills in any foreign language, and he's the worst speaker I've met so far here. On top of fluent Swedish and Turkish.
Greece? Spain? Romania? Even Germany! Most people speak English, and often a third language. This is unique to France and it's not something we can be proud of.
Maybe it was for you, but its not equally easy to learn for let say Swedes, French and Japanese. I noticed latin languages speakers have a harder time. English accent is very difficult to get right for French.
> Nobody can speak English back in france. It's pathetic.
It's obviously not true. Most people that went through high school at least know the basics. Usually, they lack practice and feel shy and self conscious, but I believe they can sustain a simple conversation if needed.
And all "grandes écoles" students speak at least decent English (I know for teaching in one).
> This is unique to France
Have you been to Italy? my experience is that they're not better than the French as far as english speaking is concerned. Same in Spain.
But seriously, what about Japan? Peru? Brazil? China? There are tons of countries where most people don't speak english at all.
> it's not something we can be proud of.
A lot of time is devoted to teaching English in France. Starting at primary school now. But learning a foreign language is notoriously hard. And things are getting better.
Maybe, what is unique to the French is to think they are so unique at everything :)
For a long time French people were mostly unconcerned with learning English. Maybe it's like that in other European countries too, I don't know, but I have lots of French friends so I know its true for them. The French have a lot of pride in their own language, although most of the ones I know wish they were <<bilingue>> (speak English).
"Maybe it's like that in other European countries too"
No, it's not. In most of the nothern or eastern european countries peoples are easily learning and speaking english and other languages. The frenchs are just the french exception. :)
Well, I'm not aware about this special case you are refering to, but this is a different problem than preserving the french language. What you are talking about is that when you are selling a product or a service in France, you must provide user manuals and support in the national language (french). So it's just a law which purpose is to guarantee that the customers will be able to have the best experience with what companies are selling them.
I guess that would not be possible in some countries like US where there's no official national language.