[leap_ahead]

You may want to consider Europe too. Many countries will give you their citizenship in just 5 years. No dependence on the employer, change them at your will.

You also get free education for your children, relatively free medical help as well as the cultural diversity.

[dylanjermiah]

He said he's a technology entrepreneur, Europe isn't exactly the best place for a tech startup.

[leap_ahead]

He said nothing of the kind. He said he was "an aspiring programmer". That type can find a good place in Europe as well.

It's not the place that makes you successful, it's your efforts. Getting into the US alone won't change your life. You have to bring something with you. If you've got nothing, then, well, you've got nothing.

[dylanjermiah]

"...where a future for a programmer, entrepreneur, or a computer scientist looks pretty bleak." Perhaps I misphrased it.

Efforts definitely count, and you can build a successful company anywhere(almost). That being said, if you're aiming to maximise the chances of success for a tech company, the US, specifically SV is your best bet. No other area in the world has the same level of VC and talent.

[leap_ahead]

VCs are overrated. They can take your company and throw you out if they don't like you. I have actually witnessed that happen. Stay clear of them if you don't want to lose your business.

Talent of SV is also overrated. Smart people are available everywhere, many of them not interested in going to the US. Pay them reasonable salary and they will build you anything.

[dylanjermiah]

Well we're both talking subjectively. But let's look at some data. The most successful tech companies in history, where are the majority located?