[dylanjermiah]

"...where a future for a programmer, entrepreneur, or a computer scientist looks pretty bleak." Perhaps I misphrased it.

Efforts definitely count, and you can build a successful company anywhere(almost). That being said, if you're aiming to maximise the chances of success for a tech company, the US, specifically SV is your best bet. No other area in the world has the same level of VC and talent.

[leap_ahead]

VCs are overrated. They can take your company and throw you out if they don't like you. I have actually witnessed that happen. Stay clear of them if you don't want to lose your business.

Talent of SV is also overrated. Smart people are available everywhere, many of them not interested in going to the US. Pay them reasonable salary and they will build you anything.

[dylanjermiah]

Well we're both talking subjectively. But let's look at some data. The most successful tech companies in history, where are the majority located?