[sagichmal]

    > Still, both lack a lot of basic issue tracker and code 
    > review features.

I strongly disagree. What you might consider "basic features" I'd consider antifeatures. The bare simplicity of the issue tracker is precisely why I use it for my (large) projects. The PR model of code review scales elegantly to hundreds of contributors. I'd be devastated to see GitHub's collaboration tools move even a step toward the hellscape that is JIRA.

[jgraham]

At least for code review, the problem isn't pull requests as-such. The features that drive me to use other tools (on top of guthub hosting, often) are things like:

* The ability to mark which commits/files have been reviewed and so track progress.

* The ability to distinguish resolved and unresolved issues

* The ability to assign a reviewer based on which code is being altered in the PR.

* Useful handling of history rewriting during review.

I also think that the PR model could be implemented in a way that would make for better collaboration. At the moment, if someone submits a PR that has some issues and you want to help them fix those issues it's a huge pain because the commits typically live in their fork to which others usually don't have push access. It would be a considerable improvement if PR branches were set up in such a way that both the original submitter and the people with commit access to upstream could push to the review branch.

[themartorana]

Beanstalk - private repo hosting for business - just released a brand new code review tool that we've been beta testing for a while now. It's rather nice and addresses many of the rough edges of pull requests. It's definitely for same-company teams as opposed to large open-source collaborative projects, though.

http://beanstalkapp.com

We host all of our private repos with Beanstalk, and use GH for our open source repos.

[NateDad]

So, I'm no Jira fan either, but the code review side of github is definitely it's weakest point. They only just rolled out side by side reviews, something that I would have said was essential from day 1.

The fact that every comment on a review turns into a separate email is insanity, and just fills up your inbox with crap (one email for all of one person's comments on a review makes a ton more sense).

I hope they make it better, it definitely seems like a place where some TLC can go a long way.

[jbergens]

Again, that's the idea with competition in the market. What one group wants may not be what everyone else wants. If enough people really want a specific set of features it would be nice if a vendor/Open Source solutions implemented that feature. There might for exmple be big differences in how enterprises use a tool and how (big) open source project use the same kind of tool.

[lmm]

I agree with that, but just to be clear, Stash is independent of Jira (though they do integrate) and has a simple pull request model. It's actually very nice to use (pretty much just like BitBucket).