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by a_gentle_autist 4242 days ago
You've clearly never spent any time in a real poor neighborhood.

Or, more likely - you consider the lower middle class "poor" by your inflated Silicon Valley standards.

Reminder: avg. US HOUSEHOLD income is 52K/year.

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68% of US Households with income under $50,000 have at least 1 HDTV.

http://www.leichtmanresearch.com/press/030714release.html

All TVs are "HDTVs." That 68% will be near 100% (of TV users) once more TVs die in the next few years.

If I go onto Amazon right now, filter sellers by Amazon.com, sort by low to high, and look at the cheapest two TVs: Samsung UN24H4000 720p: $147.75 and LG 22LB4510 1080p: $159. Both "HD."

So, using HDTVs as a metric of poverty is dumb. They're the only game in town.

Right. So things which were once luxuries are now common and cheap.

Which was the point.

Sounds like a nice way to dismiss all Western poverty ever. Have running water and electricity? Clearly not poor...

Just pick anything that 90%+ of the population have: internet, electricity, gas, water, a car, heating, a telephone line, etc and then declare it your "line" for poverty.

That's not the point under discussion.
What exactly is the "point under discussion" then? Because it sounds pretty close to that if that isn't it.
I don't think TVs were ever really a luxury in the US, except in contrived Internet arguments about the lifestyles of 10th century kings, where they absolutely always were.
Furthermore, television is a means of mass communication that allows the few media companies to disseminate their own message to a receptive audience. As a cheap source of entertainment, it also occupies and pacifies the public.

If poor people could not afford televisions, they would likely be subsidized. The food stamp program provides the bread, and broadcast television provides the circuses.

How about tracking something that rich folk would be nervous about the poor people owning, like long arms or dissenter-friendly networks? How many poor people own an AR-15 and a software-defined radio?

Perhaps. That just supports the OP's post, though. Material goods are cheap.
Okay?
And the average household size is much smaller than it used to be due to declining birthrates, higher rates of divorce, higher rates of single-parent households, etc.

http://www.statista.com/statistics/183648/average-size-of-ho...

...also a huge number of people live in low cost of living areas. I have friends and family out in rural areas with perfectly comfortable lifestyles who wish they made 52k a year.

That's the average, but the median is more like $30K. Income inequality, and all that.